Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Aramina]

But aside from rng what is not give me loot about the current arr primals when you run them unsync?

Because there is a line. Just because things are easier (very easy) now does not mean that they need to be made even EASIER. By your logic there should just be a random roll everytime you log on for any "old" item in game if RNG is all you truly believe is the difference.

[Adriosh]

Research complete. Qued for lv 50 content with undersized party, loaded in, and the chest wasn't automatically there. For some reason they expected me to do something? Please nerf. / sarcasm

[bswpayton]

Yet in the exact same post you commented how the Primals still require mechanics :x (Yes, adds are mechanics)

sigh just because they are there they are pretty much not even there you know on those same adds in sync mood you may have to actually do a rotation or something to get them down. when its unsync you can literally do one combo and they are dead one fire 4 they are dead , one fell cleave dead, If you want to call that a mechanic b my guess but their health goes down faster than a level one striking dummy so I wouldnt exactly call it that.

I m very aware of your second statement but aside from coil and many people in here even said that can be done in that same five minutes, there are more mechanics you can ignore in the arr primals than you actually have to do. What I was saying is that other than rng there is no aspect of not getting easy loot, I was stating that in sb now we dont even have to worry about the rng part. People can literally go in bis and ravana ignore 70 percent of the mechanics and kill them 99 times in less than an hour if you wana call that not give me then your welcome to that as well.

[Istaru]

Another wall of text

We may need to contact Neil deGrasse Tyson. We have discovered a new densest thing in the universe.

People can literally go in bis and ravana ignore 70 percent of the mechanics and kill them 99 times in less than an hour if you wana call that not give me then your welcome to

I used to think I was ok at this game.

Can you do me a solid?

Setup a stream, can even be done from a PS4, showing you and a group clearing Bismarck 99 times in an hour.

Seriously, make it happen.

[Settiesama]

I finally figured it out!

You see the majority (if not everyone) likes Undersized Parties the way they are... But you have a certain issue with them, and refuse to use PF sync. So you go on a one man army mission to fight against the mechanics, try to get SE to create a different instance for them so all mechanics are gone. You assume everyone would ignore that content since there is no more fun at all to be had and would resort to doing it synced. Doing it synced (you assume again) would awaken the DF for them all...

Therefore, you give yourself access to doing the coils AND get commendations at the same time! OCD win!

I must say, you would be a genius if it were not you being the only one in your corner.

People can literally go in bis and ravana ignore 70 percent of the mechanics and kill them 99 times in less than an hour if you wana call that not give me then your welcome to that as well.

Also that's a real huge over exaggeration, and what is the end bit even meant to mean? That just sounds like gibberish.

[bswpayton]

I finally figured it out!

Ive just given up the fight like I said I waited to do hw primals I play at my own pace havent even finished the msq yet, because I didnt have to , to do the primals so I did just did enough to get to the endgame content and raids. Well I admit because of the outlook on doing old content I will not be doing this any longer this time Ill do the msq as fast as everyone else and be on time for content because it dies fast.

Instead of tryin to change what the norm is Ive accepted it , and am pretty much of the mindset lets just give people what they want easy mood in old content because again this game is based on everyone not the few niche players that view this game as a whole package. So pretty much come stormblood if it isnt 4.0 everything else is irreverent and who really cares what happens to it is what Ive learned from this games community and I just embrace it now instead of tryin to be an outlier. Im actually surprised that people see things differently because its very apparent if you watch and observe thats how it is and its not gona change.

[Settiesama]

1)Ive just given up the fight like I said I waited to do hw primals.
2)Instead of tryin to change what the norm is Ive accepted it , and am pretty much of the mindset lets just give people what they want easy mood in old content because again this game is based on everyone not the few niche players that view this game as a whole package.

1) So you waited to do HW primal, to have them easier? Earlier on you were saying you wanted things to be as challenging as possible for your level. Again, contradiction.

2) You are tying to change it from what you've been saying, you haven't accepted it at all. Still you speak for this mysterious majority who none of us have ever heard from, time to stop listening to the voices in your head.

Edit: All of your replies have literally accumulated into: Please turn old raid content into a movie so new and lazy people don't have to lift a finger.

[Vidu]

Again Im not being unrealistic I am being real and being observant of the player base at least those on my server and what I see in the party finder. What you are talkin about is a niche group of a niche group I have stated I like challenge and want challenge. But I cant tell you how many times before I actually got to current content I was told and directed to you know catch up with everyone else. Ive stated before this isnt a game you can just simply do what you want to do this is a game thats very dependent on what the community is willing to do and the community aside from the small amount of people on this thread could give two craps about doing stuff once its old the proper way.

Okay, I cant keep myself from responding to this, because you're still missing a really, really important part of the game and how its supposed to work, be played and how to sucessfully clear the content: Networking.

I am currently planning to reinstate a Coil-static to have a little challenge before Stormblood. Let me tell you how I'm doing this:
1) I asked two friends if they were intrested in doing so - they both were.
2) I made a post in the FB group of an "FC" - it has about 30 members, good number for a FC, if you ask me
3) So far three other people have said they're intrested in doing this content - I asked them yesterday evening.
4) I have created a linkshell over years now, thats purpose is excatly this: Have a pool of people you know, you're familiar with, you know are bringing a certain skill to the table and who you can ask if they're intrested in content like that - it has currently 74 memembers, about 40 of them are active.
5) Furthermore I'm part of several other "social" Linkshells, where I can ask for people to help out

I have a whole network of people to do content with - I dont even have to go anywhere near PF, if I dont want to. Raids and Trials are supposed to be content for groups, statics even. They require that you find other people to do this content with - I'd actually consider that part of the challenge. If you dont want to take on that challenge, then that content simply isnt for you. I'm sorry. Not every lone, lazy wolf has to get raid-clears.

This game is neither only for "me" nor is it only for "newbies" nor the "lone wolf". This game offers a wide variety of content - crafting, gathering, just questing, time-based grinds, skill-based farms, dungeons with varrying diffculty, raids, trials. Some is challenging for those who want that. Some is not challenging for those who dont want to. There is content for every group and everyone can pick the content they like - and everyone has to accept, that if they dont do certain content because its not for them, they wont get the rewards from that. Those rewards can be anything from a drop, to an achievment, to a mount or even to a sidestory. The alchemist-questline is great - but if you dont craft, you'll never see it. And crafting takes time, effort and - to a degree - skill aswell. Should we just unlock those stories for everyone to follow too? Because some people would rather have an interactive movie/novel instead of a game?

I dont want to withhold anything from new people, but I want them to know that there is content that has certain requirements - and if they dont like that, thats okay but that content isnt for them then.
You need to let go of the idea that everyone deserves or even has to have access to the whole game, without doing anything for that.

And you have to make friends, good friends that you can trust and who share your intrests. I've taken the liberty and checked your Lodestone-profile aswell as your FC - it seems you're part of a fairly large one (close to 500 members...) and I wouldnt be surprised if thats part of the reason you're having so many issues with this content and feel so dearly for every poor new person - people might not be extremly willing to help random strangers, at least not all the time (I, and many others, still do), but thats quite different when it comes to friends or even just FC-members and acquaintances. I might make false assumptions here right and maybe your FC is a great group of 491 best friends, but its saying something that you've surronded yourself with potentially 490 other people and yet cant find 7 of them to do content with you in a way you'd like to do it - while I managed to have around 70 people at hand who share my intrests and are absolutly willing and intrested to join for that content.
And now you can ofc say "Well, good for you then!" but my point here is: I've made sure to find myself people I share intrests with, so I can enjoy the game to its full potential. If you didnt do that and are now missing out, thats enterily on you.
No one in your FC wants to help you? Look for a better FC! (my advice would always be to pick a small one...)
Need someone extra? Make a PF - if someone joins, be nice to them and you might end up adding them to your friendslist!
Create a linkshell to collect all your skilled friends who share a common intrest (for example: farm EX-Primals) and you'll never have to touch DF or PF again.
If you want to play alone, dont make any friends and treat this like a solo-game, pretending other people in dungeons are NPCs, thats fine - but accept that there is a limit on how far you can go with that. And thats you whos setting this limit.

Coil isnt solo-content. This game has enough solo-content. (And by "solo" I mean: "Can be cleared with 7 other randoms that you'll never see again") Lets keep a bit of challenging group content, shall we?
I'm not asking to instate raid-diffculty levels in casual content because "They've had 4 man dungeons long enough, now its our turn!" either.
Let everyone choose the type of content they want to do - personally, I'd even consider coil unsyched the midcore-content people are asking for: flexible groups, set-ups and even difficutlties, depending on how many people you bring. Mechanics are still relevant enough to be dealt with but except for a exceptions wont instantly wipe you anymore - and guess what: those mechanics that can wipe you if you fail them, are found in normal dungeons aswell. There is absolutly no reason at all to make Coil easier than Sastasha NM - on the contrary: I'd expect anyone who does Coil mechanic-free to be extremly dissapointed in it.

[Istaru]

There is absolutly no reason at all to make Coil easier than Sastasha NM - on the contrary: I'd expect anyone who does Coil mechanic-free to be extremly dissapointed in it.

But Vidu!

Why do I have to do so much work if I want my rewards in an MMORPG?

I have to do so many dungeons, raids and melds. I just want all the epic stuff.

Why do I have to work so hard to get all of that?

Why can't I have them without any effort? Whether that is time, difficulty or dedication.

Please?

[Vidu]

But Vidu!

Why do I have to do so much work if I want my rewards in an MMORPG?

Because I, personally, dont want you to have fun. Because you suck. And you will always suck so much that everything I achieved will always be to difficult for you anyways. No chance you can ever change that.

And now excuse me, I need to fly away on my throne to find more people to look down on.