Coils of Bahamut... and its inconsistent challenge level.

[Awful]

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It's funny that you bring up Palace because it's dependent on your gear being 99/99, using your defensives, and manipulating your pomanders, soloing an EX primal as a summoner you can do a few fights. My friend solos Urths Fount as a Smn all the time but there's no Echo or anything that he uses, a week ago we 2 manned T13 as a War/Sch combo and lemme tell you getting through Flare Star was the hardest part as it requires a lot from the 2 players.


If the healer eats more than 3-4 they still get chunked and die at 4, the tank has to eat 5-6 and use a big tank CD Vengeance/Sentinel/Shadow Wall while the healer is soloing the other dragon, keep in mind the longer you are in this phase the more Flare Stars you get. Compare that to something like PotD that's like comparing apples to oranges same with coils and primals they're just too different in terms of difficulty and content where RNG can be at your mercy in PotD but you can skip phases in raid content if you choose to do so at max level.

And i've done Titan EX with a Drg and Ninja while I was a Pld, I've done Levi EX with a Blm and myself as a Warrior, it's not hard hell i've 2 manned Mog EX with me and my warrior friend as both of us as warriors you just need over 30k hp and you won't die since his ultimate hits you for 30k exactly. There's only a few fights you can't solo because of mechanics PotD was meant to be solo'd floors 1-100 Yoshi P and the development team even said that, raids are different because there are certain mechanics that have to be met before you can even beat the fight, look at T9 for example.

[bswpayton]

[QUOTE=Dualgunner;4123035]And yet somehow the DF isn't Tank Tank Tank /QUOTE]
I've done over 1 damage on pali drk and warrior. The df could be tank tank heal but this is a game for everyone and people like dps I like dps I'm just aware that tanks and heals are more important to the team. You would argue that drk isn't more optimal than pali would u. Would u argue that warrior doesn't do more damage than pali would u. So if it's levels of tanking that one is better than another then why can we not compare the roles as a whole. I've out dps , dps several times on my warrior this isn't uncommon. Dps are good like I said but when it comes to importance they are last in the roles. Not tAking anything away from them but that's just keeping it real.

[Dualgunner]

[QUOTE=bswpayton;4123042][QUOTE=Dualgunner;4123035]And yet somehow the DF isn't Tank Tank Tank /QUOTE]

I've done over 1 damage on pali drk and warrior.

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

You've done more than 1 damage as a tank?! HOLY SHIT

The df could be tank tank heal but this is a game for everyone and people like dps I like dps I'm just aware that tanks and heals are more important to the team.

What do you lose if the group wipes? Time. What do you lose if the dps is low? Time. Either way, time is what is lost and thus DPS are just as important as not wiping.

You would argue that drk isn't more optimal than pali would u. Would u argue that warrior doesn't do more damage than pali would u. So if it's levels of tanking that one is better than another then why can we not compare the roles as a whole.

Irony is saying "You can't say tanks can't dps!" after saying "DPS can't tank!"

What is the difference between a Dragoon at Level 60 and a Warrior at 50? About 12k hp in the DRG's pool.

What is a tank but a gimped dps that can sponge a bit more damage? What is a healer but a gimped dps that can heal damage?

I've out dps , dps several times on my warrior this isn't uncommon. Dps are good like I said but when it comes to importance they are last in the roles. Not tAking anything away from them but that's just keeping it real.

Well, see, if you were a DPS in the party I'd agree. But you're a tank. So tanks are the least important, seeing as all they are is spongier dpses that do less dps.

[Annoynymoose]

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein

[bswpayton]

It's funny that you bring up

I was stating that potd one of the few things that a dps can solo. Every scenario u mention had exactly Wat I'm saying in it a tank or heals dps have to have one or the other. But it doesn't work the other way around is all I'm saying.

[Vherkin]

-Square nerfed the content
-Square created the Echo buff
-And Then Square, in all it's glory let us go in unsync.

But it was not enough for the fool, he wanted more.

-So Square added the Khloe journal to encourage people doing old content.

Yet it was not enough.

Square then Decided to say fuck it and ho to Acapulco.

More seriously, Op sound like someone who has no friend in the mmo. When i had to stop raiding for a year because of IRL issue and asked old playmate if they could help me clear Bahamut 12-13 for the story. I made them wipe once. Then we downed them ^^

[whiteblade89]

So this is still a thing, huh?

[Dualgunner]

LOL I LOVE YOU.

I love you to--I mean thank you <3

I do apologize for the unnecessarily spiteful bit at the end of my last post. I was frustrated at something unrelated irl and taking it out on you added nothing to the conversation.

[IntrovertAnt]

I found a static that decided to do all old 50 content at min ilev and with echo turned off. We are currently done with all ARR content and are working on HW content. If you want to experience challenge like the old days, you should try it! Find yourself or advertuse for a similar static.

[Istaru]

I found a static that decided to do all old 50 content at min ilev and with echo turned off. We are currently done with all ARR content and are working on HW content. If you want to experience challenge like the old days, you should try it! Find yourself or advertuse for a similar static.

Dude!!!

Liar, Liar Pants on Fire!

Nobody does this anymore, much less at ilvl with Echo off.

Did you personally ask all 350K-500K people that play this game to find 7 people willing to do this "trash" content?

Mr. 1 damage PLD and his twin have spared no amount of words to tell us this just isn't possible. His ability to clear 1 damage as a PLD gives him at least a 99 rating on a certain website. He is THAT good, the best in the game. You should check that, be careful, his insane DPS may have broken the site. If you can, check out their DRG sometime, he doesn't like DPS jobs, but he was killing himself it.

He should know, he desperately wants to do this the "right" way and has been actively trying to succeed for no less than 30 seconds.

30 seconds is an eternity. When you have the attention span of a gnat anyway.

How much more do you expect. With his 1 damage PLD, he one-shotted Nidhogg EX in the face. He would have taken down Zurvan solo with a one hit kill, but Zurvan's ego wouldn't accept a fair fight, so he popped a potsherd. Zurvan was reported by him, and SE is going to take care of it, only because he asked them to.

It's so much easier to come here, create posts that are borderline unreadable, and literally talk in circles agreeing and disagreeing with yourself the entire post than actually do something.

In case it wasn't obvious.

/sarcasm