Put back Extreme trial on raid finder again...please

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All of these Gartrs calling for EX raids to be put back in Raid Finder can just look in the mirror if they need to blame someone. You made the raid population as small as it is because you were too good to lower yourself to showing new players how things are done. Now you're complaining because new players don't know what to do in these raids?

Have you read anything in this thread, including your own statment? According to you its someones absolute duty to teach everyone and their mother how to do EX-primals once they got their clear - god forbid they'd like to their freetime in a game focussing on their own progression and doing something they want to do.

No one here is complaining that new people dont know what to do in these raids. Thats okay and a lot of people here are open to teach - myself included.
But! not all the time. I'm still the Warrior of Light - not the Teacher of Newbies.
I have explained it before, but the short version for you again: Newbies fun, time and enjoyment arent more important than mine. Yet you make it sound as if the first objective in this game is to help new people through their content - but is that really what we are playing this game for? Is that what you are playing this game for?
I cant answer the second question, but I'm sure I can answer the first one with: No. People are playing this game for different reasons. Hell, people are even doing EX-primals for different reasons! (Seriously, I have farmed all HW-EX-primals for the birds - while two friends of mine couldnt care less about them)

Some just want to "see the fight" - perfect, DF does that for them!
Some want to get one kill and be done with it - yeah, DF gets a little tricky here...
Some want/need to gear up and get weapons - using DF for that, the relic might be the faster and easier option...
Some want their bird/rare drop/music/TT-card - dont even go NEAR DF

Some might be open to teach - and yes, they can use DF, but I'll tell you something: 60 minutes is a pretty tight timelimit when you have a bunch of people who are seeing that fight for the first time. Two nights ago I joined a Sophia learning party with 6 new people, some of them firsttimers, some hadnt seen a guide (or had seen a guide but werent able to understand it - guide in english, person only spoke german). Now, Sophia EX is one of the easier primals, I'd say. It still took us over 90 minutes to kill her - how is that possible, you ask? We had to re-enter. During our first time in there we got her down to 20% or so - we managed to see all mechanics (obviously we didnt dealt with them perfectly), but didnt got the clear. So we went in again and killed her with 25 minutes on the clock left.
What would have happend in DF? After they'd seen all mechanics we would have had to leave - and the next time one of those people would have went in... how do you think that would go?

Right now, DF is - at least for the harder primals - pretty useless when it comes to getting clears at all. So... great, DF can be used for to wipe in the first phase of a primal and nothing else!
And you know what? I've done my fair share of that when I was learning those fights and whenever I feel like going back to teach them - but its not my "job" to do that. I'm playing a game, just like the person who is new. My desire to get that bird/weapon/whatever isnt less important than their desire to get the kill.
And guess what - when the primals are released everyone is new, they dont even have guides - and yet they manage to kill them without the help of someone who has done that primal 50 times already. Amazing that such a thing is possible, isnt it? But yet here you are, saying that the problem is that people, who have killed something and would like to move on farming, dont want to be hold back by new people all the time. That the problem is that we dont take them by their little paws and walk them through every EX-primal and savage. That newbies cant kill that stuff unless someone holds their hand - thats both insulting towards new people (who cant do anything on their own) and older people (who are arrogant assholes because they'd like to spend their time in a game in a way they enjoy).

Some people have real life stuff to take care of, so chances are they're unable to get on when the patch drops. If anything, you should be happy for new people. Explain the fight to them and just be patient. It's not like everyone else was any better when all of that first dropped. Sure, they had to learn the hard way, and there were no videos to watch. But, isn't our job to help teach other players how things go? As a mentor, I take great pride in helping other players, whether they be new adventurers, returners, or even other mentors themselves. While I'm not much of an Extreme runner or raider myself, I still will teach new people in the duty how to do mechanics.

I am happy about new people. I am patient and I'm trying to teach as often as I can. But you're asking me to sacrfice my own goals completly with that statment. And thats not right - I'm playing a game, this is not a job. So no, our job is not to help new people in a video game - our job is being a nurse, teacher, cashier, student, ballet dancer or whatever it is you do for a living. This is our hobby (except you're a goldfarmer, I guess), this is everyones freetime and they should be able to spend it as they please (within limits ofc - but prefering to farm a fight over teaching it is well within those limits).
If I want to achieve something in this game and I have limited freetime because of my real life, I'd like to focus on that - without being called an elitist [insert whatever word seems fitting].

Its very nice of you to but the intrest of other people before your own - but not everyone has to do that. I like teaching and helping aswell and when I have the time and nerves to wipe for hours, I'll do that. But that doesnt meant that I have to discard everything I'd like to do for myself.

The ability to solo queue for farming didn't exist before RF, and it doesn't have to. It is an anomaly that was a byproduct in attempt to help the dry servers.

Why not? Its very convenient to queue for those EX-primals (not only solo, but also with any number of people that isnt a full party) - why should that be reserved for those who just want to get a gilmpse of the fight? Why should the very convenient tool that the DF is become useless once you're good enough to clear that fight? People used it with great joy for Sophia - it was wonderful! Friend and I could queue up for a few runs, when we would have never joined a committed farm party. Farming is a legit way to play that content - why not give us easier matchmaking tools?