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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I dont really understand why the Yda/Lyse thing was necessary?
    I have a darksteelfoil hat theory that Square Enix really wanted Yda to be a hot-headed, revenge-driven youth hells-bent on reclaiming Ala Mhigo for Stormblood, but given that Yda was hanging in the balance of 20 years of half-fulfilled plot threads going from fighting in 1557 up through being unexpectedly aged a further 5 years by the jump to ARR, having the Lady in Red be Yda, pushing (if not over) 40 years old (with barely any character development or personal growth since the fall of Midgardsormr back in '62) didn't work very well, so they copped right out of it and put her back in the frame of a 20-something off to kick some Imperial ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I have a darksteelfoil hat theory that Square Enix really wanted Yda to be a hot-headed, revenge-driven youth hells-bent on reclaiming Ala Mhigo for Stormblood, but given that Yda was hanging in the balance of 20 years of half-fulfilled plot threads going from fighting in 1557 up through being unexpectedly aged a further 5 years by the jump to ARR, having the Lady in Red be Yda, pushing (if not over) 40 years old (with barely any character development or personal growth since the fall of Midgardsormr back in '62) didn't work very well, so they copped right out of it and put her back in the frame of a 20-something off to kick some Imperial ass.
    Does this mean Yda is likely Zenos? That just sounds nigh offensive if so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Does this mean Yda is likely Zenos? That just sounds nigh offensive if so.
    I know I've been saying that I don't make concrete predictions anymore; that I just deal with probabilities and potential points of view and then roll my eyes at the "I called it! Praise meeee!" and such (unless it's that Gaius lives, because obvious Gaius not Deadsar). I'm putting that aside for a moment.

    If Zenos is Yda I will eat my mortarboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post

    If Zenos is Yda I will eat my mortarboard.
    I'm holding you to this, Moose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Does this mean Yda is likely Zenos? That just sounds nigh offensive if so.
    Maaaan. I hope not. That would be beyond stupid
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    Yoshi /facepalm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I have a darksteelfoil hat theory that Square Enix really wanted Yda to be a hot-headed, revenge-driven youth hells-bent on reclaiming Ala Mhigo for Stormblood, but given that Yda was hanging in the balance of 20 years of half-fulfilled plot threads going from fighting in 1557 up through being unexpectedly aged a further 5 years by the jump to ARR, having the Lady in Red be Yda, pushing (if not over) 40 years old (with barely any character development or personal growth since the fall of Midgardsormr back in '62) didn't work very well, so they copped right out of it and put her back in the frame of a 20-something off to kick some Imperial ass.
    Considering how much SE tends to shy from having any character past 25 in the "main character" slot of a Final Fantasy I figured this was exactly what happened.

    After sometime to reflect, I wish that we had gotten a bit more for foreshadowing on Doma. There has been so little mention of Doma/the Far East in the game when compared to all of the buildup they have done for Ala Mhigo that I'm afraid that the Orthard/Doma plot going to end up like the Ul'dah plot in Heavensward, but with a new city and housing district. Everytime I had to back to Ul'dah in the middle of the Heavensward plot it felt awkward and disjointed and ending up being a disservice to both plot threads. Hopefully they will integrate the two threads better in Stormblood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naria View Post
    Considering how much SE tends to shy from having any character past 25 in the "main character" slot of a Final Fantasy I figured this was exactly what happened.

    After sometime to reflect, I wish that we had gotten a bit more for foreshadowing on Doma. There has been so little mention of Doma/the Far East in the game when compared to all of the buildup they have done for Ala Mhigo that I'm afraid that the Orthard/Doma plot going to end up like the Ul'dah plot in Heavensward, but with a new city and housing district. Everytime I had to back to Ul'dah in the middle of the Heavensward plot it felt awkward and disjointed and ending up being a disservice to both plot threads. Hopefully they will integrate the two threads better in Stormblood.
    We'll probably get more of a reason to go to Doma in Stormblood itself, as it stands right now, we're heading beyond the wall. We've had seeds planted for Doma, but the story isnt going there just yet.
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