Thread: Revelations from Patch 3.56

Originally Posted by Rocl

Given both him and the Ascians were absent? I'm going with Cyril's possession theory, lol.

Glad to have someone with me in the deepest depths of crack.

Originally Posted by DreamAngel-Ren

If the theory turns out to be true, I'll be like, "WHAT? AGAIN?!!" lol

So will Thancred

It felt like a star wars a force awakening: han solo situation, papalymo die to save us from the primal that was suppose to be rhaegar and yet we had no funeral, no acknowledging his sacrifice, no mourning, nothing.

Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

It felt like a star wars a force awakening: han solo situation, papalymo die to save us from the primal that was suppose to be rhaegar and yet we had no funeral, no acknowledging his sacrifice, no mourning, nothing.

Why can't ppl accept the fact that Ilberd being Ala Mhigan simply had strong practices & beliefs in Rhaegar? We've seen this constantly in dialog with Ala Mhigans. Omega & Shinryu not only have a connection throughout the FF Series, but the conduit used by Ilberd was Nidhogg's eyes. Shinryu can also bridge in the Ala Mhigo & the Far East characters involved, since we know it's a Far East legend, yet Shinryu appears in Ala Mhigo.

3.XX coming to a close doesn't require a closure to Papalymo via mourning/funeral. It feels left open and can continue in with Stormblood. Especially now that Lyse is literally herself and could aid into developing her character more.

It's just too early to tell.

Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

It felt like a star wars a force awakening

The comparison to Star Wars is apt, but I think Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back would make the more appropriate analogy. Episode V, like Heavensward, took the Star Wars saga into a darker turn, even as it delved far more substantially into world- and character-building. By building on the darkness, Episode V was not only contrasting itself with the more upbeat original, but it was also setting things up for an uplifting finale in Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi.

Similarly, the Heavensward/Dragonsong storyline has been all about cost, in contrast with its more positive predecessor. A Realm Reborn focused on the return of a foretold hero, and how that hero came to ascend to his or her destiny. As the hero gained in power, enemies and gods fell alike before his or her prowess. And, at one point, it seemed like nothing could stand in the hero's way.

From a storytelling point of view, what we had back then was a narrative that was going upwards, higher and higher. So, it was only natural, for dramatic purposes, to make a sharp U-turn in tone, and bring our hero, and the hero's companions back down to earth.

And that was essentially the point of Heavensward/Dragonsong. Each chapter brought some gains, but arguably heavier losses. Doubts have been growing, even within the hero (especially for those who experienced the DRK storyline). And we've come to a juncture where the very nature of reality is up in question, as we've learnt more about Hydaelyn and her shards, and Elidibus' motives become ever more apparently reasonable.

It's in this context that I noticed that the Scions and the Eorzean Alliance are about to be drawn into a war on two fronts that they don't want to wage, but feel duty-bound nonetheless to do so. The enjoyment, to me, is in noticing the nuances in the lines (alas, the English voice-acting wasn't quite up to par; that's one of the few criticisms I do have), and appreciating the politics behind the reluctant decisions to go to war.

In other words, I think the drama this time around is more subtle, and obviously not as in-your-face as it was in the conclusion to A Realm Reborn. It's a matter of taste, certainly, but I won't hesitate to say that I prefer it this way.

Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

It felt like a star wars a force awakening: han solo situation, papalymo die to save us from the primal that was suppose to be rhaegar and yet we had no funeral, no acknowledging his sacrifice, no mourning, nothing.

Whatta you mean? I got to listen to Yda (lyse) repeat the same ''ARE YOU WATCHING THIS PAPALYMO'' line 37 times over during the solo fight, and honestly I think that's more than enough acknowledging for my taste

what a cop out of an ending >_>