SE Please add jump and swiming

[Esk]

I would be all for swimming in limitedly locations, Or with a special buff or something..
That or take your gear off, so it is done diffidently and with a bit of a challenge or something not just a way to move around freely like most mmos.
Stripping down to swim around in deep caves or special gear would be a cool way to do a instanced area for hidden rooms and Forgotten citys and stuff..

Or maybe we need a plant to breath though and we can only use it for so long an so often as its poinsonus but then we can walk around under water and climb cliffs if we want to keep gear on?
I dunno just something different..

As for Jump FFXIII style imo, or again in limited situations.. The way of the bunny is strong in MMO players and it take a lot of of the PvP (more then it adds imo at least)

[Alhanelem]

In addition (to my previous post): Many places, such as Limsa and the La Noscea region in particular aren't really built with the possibility of jumping in mind. I think that after the area revamp is in place, the idea will be revisited.

[DNO]

In Final Fantasy Leviathan is generally a floating serpent (not necessarily a fish perse) and whenever people bring up "realism", they get slammed with "THIS IS A FANTASY GAME", so nothing is wrong with fighting a floating Leviathan, that's fantasy as well as how he generally is in past games.

No playerbase is ruining anything -- People use that as an excuse because they can't deal with the fact not everyone wants to see FFXIV being the same tired old MMORPG that gets release almost 10 times a year. Every MMO ends up the same. People refer to FFXI because not only is it in the same series ) but it also had all the basics and a very good foundation it could have built off of, which even Yoshida refers to in some interviews how a lot of changes will "be like how it was in XI" as an example, because it's simply another MMORPG they've created before.

However, it seems like people want XIV to be another generic MMORPG, which is cool, but with the flood of other generic MMORPGs coming out, it'll be hard pressed to say that XIV offers anything new and unique when people want it to play like every other MMO out there. The only difference would be you could switch jobs and classes at will, which other MMOs are starting to incorporate (Eden Eternal).

Even then, Yoshida said it would be something that wouldn't happen for a very long time, and they honestly have bigger things to worry about (the main argument against it, by the way) than jumping and swimming, the game is fundamentally flawed, not flawed by being held by a playerbase.

ahh i was hoping you would reply because this was more or less for you.

First if its a fantasy game why are you so agaisnt swiming and jumping?

Second how is adding jump and swiming an example of a "same old tired MMO release" i would think NOT having these is old and tired.

Third FF14 was NOT a generic MMORPG at launch and look where it got them. Not to have basic features is completely fail in this day and age. SE is trying hard to catch up to generic MMORPGS and jump and swiming can help that a lot.

4th Yoshi also said he wanted to add jump but because of forum reaction (you) he was surprised and held off but he still wants it. I think looking at past letters he had jump feature for update 1.20 or 1.21 but that is gone. It does not take a genuis to figure out why..... The game is fundamentally flawed and its ALSO flawed ny the player base. You are using the "game is flawed" excuse to justify why you have a problem with jumping. The reason is silly and the fact that there is a debate on this is proving this. I mean lots of FF games had jump. You just want this game to be ff11 and that is what is messing this game up.

Read my sig jump is not the only thing thats not in ff11 that you do not want.

[Teakwood]

Out of personal curiosity having never played WoW - are there any remotely platformy elements of WoW's gameplay? Any attacks you can evade with a well-timed jump? I know in Aion jumping made sense because it was usually done in order to catch an updraft, as it were, and start flying; the game zone design was wonderfully three-dimensional rather than planar (at least in the areas where air travel was a routine thing). Is there a -reason- for jumping to exist in WoW? (And more immediately relevant, is there a reason for it to exist in XIV? They killed the annoying terrain stuck-on-an-ankle-high-ridge, and even made it so you can walk right up some fairly steep cliffs - which, frankly, makes the "jumping ruins my immersion" complaint seem a little silly - so is there any actual reason from it other than people not being able to bound around like lunatics? Obviously "they could design 2.0 zones to be platformy and three-dimensional", which I wouldn't particularly like from a playability / design perspective, but ridiculous defiance of physics is -definitely- an FF standby, and even at my grumpiest I think it'd be kinda fun, so it's not like it'd ruin my enjoyment of the game.)

I mean, given their stated love of positioning being a strategic Thing, I can see crazy battles with dynamic battlefields or something actually being a possibility, having to jump from platform to platform or etc. I'm undecided on whether that's a game I actively want to play, but...

(Basically what I'm wondering is is there any reason people want jumping other than "other MMOs have it" and "I want to be a bunny rabbit" and "I want PvP to be irritating". Swimming, though? Dear /Twelve/, yes. That would be beyond awesome.)

[DNO]

After reading this I'm not sure if you are against or for jumping/swimming :S .... But anyways as for the part of being generic, having a lack of features that others MMORPGS have does not make you unique, just inferior. While not having Jumping and swimming does not break or make a game, it does prevent you from having content and gameplay aspects the competition has and that in marketing is a weakness no matter how you see it.

Wow very well put and my thoughts on the reason i created this thread.

[DNO]

I think it's not because the bitching but because FF XIV need the new engine for this, which we get with 2.0 and not earlier.

Cool but he had jump as a feature for the plan "up to summer" if im not mistaken... but this is a reason i can live with TBH. Just don't listen to all the people that bitch its annoying Yoshi lol

[Seirra_Lanzce]

I think it's not because the bitching but because FF XIV need the new engine for this, which we get with 2.0 and not earlier.

generally this.

[Onidemon]

I wonder why they started being so quiet about jumping. They are the ones who stated it was being considered in the first place, then they said it was moved to lower priority and finally they completely shup up about it, even when asked countless times if it was still being considered. It's like we asked when it will be or that we absolutely demanded to have it. We just wanted to know if it was still in their plans or not but they refuse to answer and i find that odd.

either they decided not to add it and want to keep it on the low to avoid upsetting the players who were looking fwd to it or they decided to add it but want to wait until they can show us how it will work so not to upset the other half who were totaly against it.

That being said, swimming was already confirmed as a possibility for a future expansion in the thread below.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rwater-content

[Nikita]

I wonder why they started being so quiet about jumping. They are the ones who stated it was being considered in the first place, then they said it was moved to lower priority and finally they completely shup up about it, even when asked countless times if it was still being considered. It's like we asked when it will be or that we absolutely demanded to have it. We just wanted to know if it was still in their plans or not but they refuse to answer and i find that odd.

either they decided not to add it and want to keep it on the low to avoid upsetting the players who were looking fwd to it or they decided to add it but want to wait until they can show us how it will work so not to upset the other half who were totaly against it.

That being said, swimming was already confirmed as a possibility for a future expansion in the thread below.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rwater-content

What else is to say? They said they are adding jumping already, I think some people are just forgetting the fact. It is something we will most likely see with the launch of 2.0. As for swimming, it is something we may see after that.

[Doho]

instead of jumping all i want is a situational jump prompt for environments (ala FF13) and a rolling dodge/sidestep feature similar to monster hunter. that's all I want. I can't speak for anyone else.