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[Miste]

Again, I honestly do not care whether or not you believe me, nor am I in any mood to argue over petty semantics with another NA player whose pride got hurt because I said JP players have better manners and an overall higher skill level. I know it's the truth, anyone who has ventured into a JP datacentre know it's the truth, but if there are players who want to pretend otherwise, far be it from me to deny them.

It's not semantics. I am calling on you to prove this "truth" you keep claiming as fact.

So since you obviously cannot prove it, I guess you can stop making subjective false claims now?

Also, what pride? I told you already if your claim had been the opposite and you said NA/EU was better than JP I would have STILL called you out on it for making baseless claims.

What region I am part of makes no difference to my objection of your so called "truth"; so no you didn't "hurt my pride" lol you are giving yourself WAY too much credit here.

[molzilla]

Snip.

Not trying to start arguments here, but isn't it just generally acknowledged that JP overall has a politer player base compared to NA/EU mainly due to cultural differences? Vaguely remember there being a thread related to this a week or two ago.

[Lunaxia]

It's not semantics. I am calling on you to prove this "truth" you keep claiming as fact.

Your previous posts were very much semantics, and you are aware demanding statistics from me doesn't make me any less right either?

So since you obviously cannot prove it, I guess you can stop making subjective false claims now?

By the same token, should you not be providing proof that my claims are false before making such a statement? Statistics? Research?

so no you didn't "hurt my pride" lol you are giving yourself WAY too much credit here

This might have more credit had you not been hounding my previous posts in a dogged attempt to prove yourself right when I've already expressed I do not care.

[Miste]

Your previous posts were very much semantics, and you are aware demanding statistics from me doesn't make me any less right either?

If you can't prove a statement is "true" or "false" then naturally it would be "not proven" so it does make your statement "less" right. Although...less right sounds weird. I would say it makes your statement incorrect until proven otherwise, and you've yet to prove otherwise when asked (because you actually have no way to prove it).

By the same token, should you not be providing proof that my claims are false before making such a statement? Statistics? Research?

I am not the one claiming one region is better than the other. You are.

My claim is: no one can claim one region is better since none of us have all the information needed to claim that.

In simple terms: all regions are neutral because there is no factual statistical proof one is better than another.

This might have more credit had you not been hounding my previous posts in a dogged attempt to prove yourself right when I've already expressed I do not care.

This might have more credit had you stopped responding to me...you know if you don't care then why are you replying to me still?

PS. I'm not hounding you. If you don't want people to reply to things you say then don't say them in a public forum :/

[Lunaxia]

If you can't prove a statement is...

...what utter nonsense. So every as of yet unproven scientific theory is wrong, in your eyes?

I am not the one claiming one region is better than the other. You are.

You're claiming I am wrong based on a lack of statistical evidence. If statistical evidence is all that matters in proving something right, where is your evidence that my claims are false? You have none. Ergo, by the same logic, you are also wrong.

This might have more credit had you stopped responding to me...you know if you don't care then why are you replying to me still?

Because of your insistence that I do so?

[Miste]

...what utter nonsense. So every as of yet unproven scientific theory is wrong, in your eyes?

Unproven scientific theory is just.... unproven scientific theory. Why would I think it "wrong" when it is "unproven"?

It is unproven until someone proves or disproves it. You know the definition of "theory" right?

Do you believe everything someone says or writes with no proof then??

I mean I could write up a theory saying that 20 billion light years away in the universe there is a bubble of space-time that is a replica of our Milky Way galaxy that is actually time distorted and the replica of Earth in that space-time bubble is younger and only at like 300 A.D. and is following an alternate reality to our Earth.

Am I correct??? Should people blindly believe me?? Or is it simply a theory that is unproven since no one can prove it true or false?

Only SE can attempt to prove your claim because only they actually have full access to their game/servers/community; so its the same problem where it can't be proven by just me or you and I don't think SE would bother with such a thing either.

I mean I don't get it, you are actually saying you believe everything you hear?

You're claiming I am wrong based on a lack of statistical evidence. If statistical evidence is all that matters in proving something right, where is your evidence that my claims are false? You have none. Ergo, by the same logic, you are also wrong.

It's not about being right or wrong like you keep latching onto. I am saying you can't make the the claims you are making because you have no proof to back it up. There is no way to prove it so you can't claim it. That is the last time I am going to tell you this.

If no one can prove that one region is better or worse than another that means you can't make the claim you made. Just as I couldn't claim NA/EU data centers is better than JP data centers...I can't prove it so why would I say it? For the last time, my stance is no one can say one way or another. The data centers are neutral until proven otherwise by real statistics.

You keep trying to turn this around on me, but simple fact is you still haven't provided the proof to your initial claim.

Because of your insistence that I do so?

How can I force you to reply? If you don't care then this would have ended 3 posts ago because if you truly didn't care you wouldn't bother replying even if I reply to you.

[Lunaxia]

Dear god, go outside and pet a dog or something.

idek what this is

I used it as an example of why your "wrong until proven right" argument was flawed, it wasn't an invitation to go on another warbling tangent.

To answer the your question, I believe my own experiences and those of the people around me. In general I'm not pig-headed enough to refuse general fact and then hide behind a petty reason for it.

It's not about being right or wrong like you keep latching onto

Well, it is, since you seem very, very desperate to prove me wrong yet lack any evidence to do so - something you're condemning me for. See the problem?

You keep trying to turn this around on me

The projection is strong in this one.

How can I force you to reply? If you don't care then this would have ended 3 posts ago because if you truly didn't care you wouldn't bother replying even if I reply to you.

Yes, clearly, this is not a matter of pride at all. Completely objective and unemotional reasoning.

[Miste]

I used it as an example of why your "wrong until proven right" argument was flawed, it wasn't an invitation to go on another warbling tangent.

You didn't read my post because this isn't what I said

You're still stuck on this "wrong" or "right" thing even though I've told you multiple times.

I said it is "not proven" so therefore claiming it as true is pointless since you can't prove it. It serves no purpose except to be rude to a specific region of players.

Also kind of hypocritical to claim I went on a tangent; if you recall you were the one who brought up scientific theories.

To answer the your question, I believe my own experiences and those of the people around me. In general I'm not pig-headed enough to refuse general fact and then hide behind a petty reason for it.

It's fine to believe it for yourself if you want, but you came in here and tried to pass your opinion off as fact when it isn't. So I asked you to prove it and you still haven't btw.

Well, it is, since you seem very, very desperate to prove me wrong yet lack any evidence to do so - something you're condemning me for. See the problem?

You didn't read my post or didn't understand it; one or both idk

Still stuck on that "wrong" thing...