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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    The truth is none of this has anything to do with the topic.

    You can easily convey your disagreement with OP's post without resorting to putting down certain nationality groups no matter how "true" you think it is.

    Not to mention that unless you do a research study between the different nationality servers to get factual statistics then your "truth" holds as much water as a glass with a huge hole in it.
    Technically it does, as we're discussing behaviour in-game and someone brought up a comparison between the two regarding the need for such an option as specified by OP.

    I didn't "put down any nationality" either, I pointed out that player behaviour is, on average, better on one set of datacentres than another, as anyone who has experienced both sides of the coin will tell you. I couldn't care less if you choose not to believe it, that's your prerogative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Technically it does, as we're discussing behaviour in-game and someone brought up a comparison between the two regarding the need for such an option as specified by OP.
    Someone brought it up, but it wasn't necessary.

    Behavior in-game is behavior in-game. It doesn't matter what server, nationality, or region the players are in or from because all people all over the world have the capacity to behave in all ways imaginable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    I didn't "put down any nationality" either, I pointed out that player behaviour is, on average, better on one set of datacentres than another, as anyone who has experienced both sides of the coin will tell you. I couldn't care less if you choose not to believe it, that's your prerogative.
    Nationality maybe wasn't the best word I admit, so instead of that then "regions" (I was just trying not to use specific region names like NA/EU/JP or anything because no matter which way you claimed your biased statement I would have called you out on it; which I explain at the * statement)

    You did. You attribute certain negative aspects to certain regions based on your own personal experiences; problem is one person's experiences don't reveal the whole picture. Even a handful of people's experiences don't reveal the whole picture. You would need a way more comprehensive analysis with a way bigger sample size to see even half the picture.

    Of course I am not going to believe you. Who would? You have no factual evidence to back up your so called "truth" except your own subjective opinions.

    * Just like I wouldn't believe anyone who claimed that the region I play on was better than the others. No proof either way. So it is pointless and just comes off rude that you would label certain regions as lesser than others due to arbitrary personal experiences.

    So if you are going to say something like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    It's the truth, no matter how much you may not like to hear it; in terms of behaviour, attitude, and overall ability, JP is better than EU/ NA.
    You wrote this as a claim of fact. You didn't say "I believe" or "In my opinion"

    I am going to wait for you to present your evidence proving what you claim here. It isn't about just "not believing you" if you are going to say something like this then don't be surprised if someone challenges you for factual proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    it is pretty true
    Prove it with factual statistics outside of your own personal experiences. I wouldn't see how you could though since you don't work at SE and only they have full access to everything that goes on in their servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    snip snip
    Again, I honestly do not care whether or not you or anyone else believes me, nor am I in any mood to argue over petty semantics with another NA player whose pride got hurt because I said JP players have better manners and an overall higher skill level. I know it's the truth, anyone who has ventured into a JP datacentre know it's the truth, but if there are players who want to pretend otherwise, far be it from me to deny them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Again, I honestly do not care whether or not you believe me, nor am I in any mood to argue over petty semantics with another NA player whose pride got hurt because I said JP players have better manners and an overall higher skill level. I know it's the truth, anyone who has ventured into a JP datacentre know it's the truth, but if there are players who want to pretend otherwise, far be it from me to deny them.
    It's not semantics. I am calling on you to prove this "truth" you keep claiming as fact.

    So since you obviously cannot prove it, I guess you can stop making subjective false claims now?

    Also, what pride? I told you already if your claim had been the opposite and you said NA/EU was better than JP I would have STILL called you out on it for making baseless claims.

    What region I am part of makes no difference to my objection of your so called "truth"; so no you didn't "hurt my pride" lol you are giving yourself WAY too much credit here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    Snip.
    Not trying to start arguments here, but isn't it just generally acknowledged that JP overall has a politer player base compared to NA/EU mainly due to cultural differences? Vaguely remember there being a thread related to this a week or two ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    It's not semantics. I am calling on you to prove this "truth" you keep claiming as fact.
    Your previous posts were very much semantics, and you are aware demanding statistics from me doesn't make me any less right either?

    So since you obviously cannot prove it, I guess you can stop making subjective false claims now?
    By the same token, should you not be providing proof that my claims are false before making such a statement? Statistics? Research?

    so no you didn't "hurt my pride" lol you are giving yourself WAY too much credit here
    This might have more credit had you not been hounding my previous posts in a dogged attempt to prove yourself right when I've already expressed I do not care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Your previous posts were very much semantics, and you are aware demanding statistics from me doesn't make me any less right either?
    If you can't prove a statement is "true" or "false" then naturally it would be "not proven" so it does make your statement "less" right. Although...less right sounds weird. I would say it makes your statement incorrect until proven otherwise, and you've yet to prove otherwise when asked (because you actually have no way to prove it).

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    By the same token, should you not be providing proof that my claims are false before making such a statement? Statistics? Research?
    I am not the one claiming one region is better than the other. You are.

    My claim is: no one can claim one region is better since none of us have all the information needed to claim that.

    In simple terms: all regions are neutral because there is no factual statistical proof one is better than another.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    This might have more credit had you not been hounding my previous posts in a dogged attempt to prove yourself right when I've already expressed I do not care.
    This might have more credit had you stopped responding to me...you know if you don't care then why are you replying to me still?

    PS. I'm not hounding you. If you don't want people to reply to things you say then don't say them in a public forum :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    If you can't prove a statement is...
    ...what utter nonsense. So every as of yet unproven scientific theory is wrong, in your eyes?

    I am not the one claiming one region is better than the other. You are.
    You're claiming I am wrong based on a lack of statistical evidence. If statistical evidence is all that matters in proving something right, where is your evidence that my claims are false? You have none. Ergo, by the same logic, you are also wrong.

    This might have more credit had you stopped responding to me...you know if you don't care then why are you replying to me still?
    Because of your insistence that I do so?
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