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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    It's not allowed, using parser data against another player is highly reportable, and GMs will take action. Adding an in-game parser does little more than hand players a stick to beat others with, and legitimizes something that is currently bannable.

    Information is powerful, it's also dangerous. Information mis-used is a weapon, not a tool.
    Parsing is not a ban-able offence in of itself - Yoshida has specifically gone on record on how they approach this issue (with guides off official forums with open names that they'll never do anything about), and adding a parser into the game doesn't mean you get a free pass to harass people. Adding parser does not require a new GM stipulation "players can say whatever they want if its about parsing", griefing is still griefing.

    So it doesn't legitimize something that is ban-able. Just to reiterate, adding parsers does not legitimize harassment. Harassment is still ban-able.

    You can still report it and GMs can still do something about it. "Hey, Mog2 - I noticed your damage is a bit low because you're not using your DoT, watch your damage as you weave it in" vs "OMG HEALER NOOB CANT DAMAGE, WHAT AN IDIOT!!!" clearly one is still going to cause issues. Technically both can be done already but its so much easier to have a conversation/learn/and teach when you actually have information to reference rather than waving at a semi-tangible sort of there block of information. Also people could say "yeah they didn't damage a lot but look they have very little over heal and incredibly high healing, how about you stop standing in all of the AoEs so they can actually do damage" (an important moment in raid learning lol).

    Everything becomes more fact based, and we already have the damage of parsers as I said its already a thing because SE has already allowed it to be a thing. People will just give you crap without actually saying "parse" or using direct numbers.

    All SE has managed to do with their stance is fog our information.

    All it will change (from what we already have) is allow everyone to better learn and teach, if they want, increasing the average player ability. Also would allow for better balancing discussions, "Hey SE, look this job is factually worse" rather than "I feel I do less AoE damage" and SE says "it's great, trust us". The issues, which parsers do bring, are already here made full by the fact SE has gone out of their way to say you wont be banned for it (and the report-able issues wont change by giving us better information, that some people already have access to). An aside you said highly banable but I've talked to people who've let known they use a parse and thrashed someone for not meeting their standards, the punishment is pretty mellow (but maybe depends on the GM/number of offences). Personally think people shouldn't be rude to each other but the rude people will still be rude regardless of information, I'd rather be able to improve/teach/understand and not have some vague nearly useless glazed window between players, their characters, and SE.

    Its true information can be a weapon, but seeing as people are already stabbing each other might as well be stabbed by the truth lol (and you can report them for stabbing you anyways XD). "Thanks, now go get rekt by the GM".
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    Last edited by Shougun; 03-17-2017 at 03:44 AM.