I280 weapons were a mistake

[technole]

A victory lap for nine days. And Yoshi was talking about the anima being weaker then the relic during it's development, and never said a thing about it not being BiS once completed. The plan was to be just like 2.x, and it was...until SE realized how awful the new Diadem was and had to toss uber-god weapons in just to get people to step foot in it.

Oh I didn't say I agree with it. If anything the Diadem issue has brought Savage raiders and those who do not raid, but work long enough for an anima together on an issue for once. Even raiders do animas because of min-max stats that Alex weapons don't always give us.

It's more satisfaction to have the stats you want so it's always been an appealing route. Speed runners do the same thing because every stat counts. Like right now with this i280 junk, the i275 Alex DRK sword is the 5th best weapon because of it's crummy Parry/SkS sub-stats.

Putting the highest ilvl up to RNG jackpot over months of progression raiding or constant time in the game is the dumbest thing to ever occur in this game.

[Jijifli]

Uhm...they only need to be in a group that beats the Emergency Mission and get lucky. That's it. Anyone can do that. On the flip side, not anyone could just shell out, like, 60$ or something for a weapon like that.

I can not only compare the two, I can even turn your argument around. Because it's a stupid one that shows you haven't understood the purpose of the comparison: To show that people are willing to quit the game over principles, regardless of what those might be. And for that purpose, I can make more comparisons: Making a quest that glorifies sexism. Making a quest in which you need to torture chocobos. Making Legacy Items available to anyone. Or mailing everyone an i900 weapon at the start of Stormblood. IT DOES NOT MATTER for the point I was making.

1) Although not glorified, there are characters that are sexist, or hard stereotypes for it.

2) We have quests for capturing and killing Chocobo's, including a fate. So that counts.

3) SE stated rewards for 1.0 players won't go out to others. They didn't say they won't release high ilvl gear.

4) Maybe if they did I'd stop seeing people with level 50 gear in my expert roulette. So I'll take it.

I saw your point. People leave over anything. People quit when Diadem was first released because it had 210 gear in content where 210 was cap. Of course people are going to complain over an item that is higher by 5 ilvl's, with <1% chance to drop, in content that nobody would do otherwise. We're just back to 3.0 again where people had a problem with their relic's not still being instant BiS at 135.

How is anima not effort?!? Stage five required 60-80 umbrite, each costing 300 Lore. Do you think I just pulled that 18,000-24,000 Lore out of my backside? You say it's just waiting. Did I have to wait for the Lore fairy to flutter down and give it to me? Because I may be crazy, but I seem to recall running the ARF until my eyeballs bled. That...takes effort. Seventh phase required running content for condensation. I don't recall just waiting and letting people carry me through A1S farming. No, I put effort in.

Anime doesn't require effort, just waiting? Guessing you never made one.

Currently on Umbrite step actually. I took a break on the 210 step because I didn't find it enjoyable. However, so far for getting my 210, 230, and going to 240, I don't have to go out of my way for anything. 210 I use resources I get from my roulettes (tomes and seals,) 230 I used tomes, and 240 I'm using tomes and seals. I don't have to go out of my way for the resources, so I can say at least some of the steps are literally just the waiting game.

You chose to spam ARF until your eyes bled. Of course doing stuff makes it faster, but you never have to go out of your way for Umbrite or Oil as examples. If you're upset over your 9 days late equip being put into the game, you can leave. It's not going to make a difference though on where you stand. You aren't suffering to get into the current content, right?

[Xerek]

I'm getting tired of repeating myself, so you get a lazy copy/paste...

"See prior response. If I wanted a very good weapon, I would have gone with Triad/Kinna/Script weapons. The only reason I put the work into the anima was because it was supposed to be the best at the end, until SB. And then, just nine days after completion, it's not. I do not have a BiS weapon up until SB, I have a very good one. See the second sentence regarding very good."

[Aquaslash]

It benefits SE's bottom line. .

It doesn't even do that. People are unsubbing in protest. It's like Gordias except nobody remotely asked for it

[Jijifli]

I'm getting tired of repeating myself, so you get a lazy copy/paste...

"See prior response. If I wanted a very good weapon, I would have gone with Triad/Kinna/Script weapons. The only reason I put the work into the anima was because it was supposed to be the best at the end, until SB. And then, just nine days after completion, it's not. I do not have a BiS weapon up until SB, I have a very good one. See the second sentence regarding very good."

Okay, let me help then.

If they made it 275, you'd all still complain because it's on par. If it was any lower, you all wouldn't do the content because there's be the point in it.

Know how I have proof of this? Look at Diadem's first release and the forums about that. People cried even harder about 210 gear because it made raiders waste time, since they could have just done Diadem. So even at 275 weapons these posts wouldn't change. I actually even bet these thread's would still exist if it was 270.

[technole]

The problem is Diadem 2.0: Revenge of the Dinos content isn't even that good, even with the carrot of an RNG weapon.

[Lunafreya]

The problem is Diadem 2.0: Revenge of the Dinos content isn't even that good, even with the carrot of an RNG weapon.

I haven't touched it yet and don't plan to.

[Xerek]

Okay, let me help then.

If they made it 275, you'd all still complain because it's on par. If it was any lower, you all wouldn't do the content because there's be the point in it.

Know how I have proof of this? Look at Diadem's first release and the forums about that. People cried even harder about 210 gear because it made raiders waste time, since they could have just done Diadem. So even at 275 weapons these posts wouldn't change. I actually even bet these thread's would still exist if it was 270.

Don't speak for me. I built my anima to be BiS. So long as it still is, I would not be upset. i275, i270...I wouldn't be upset because I still met my goal.

[Jijifli]

Don't speak for me. I built my anima to be BiS. So long as it still is, I would not be upset. i275, i270...I wouldn't be upset because I still met my goal.

If your goal is to have the best weapon for your job, which at this point doesn't even matter much for savage content, then go do Diadem.

Like honest question. If 5 ilvl's is the difference between you clearing A12S or not, then are we sure it's not a "the static is trash" situation?

[Aquaslash]

Okay, let me help then.

If they made it 275, you'd all still complain because it's on par. If it was any lower, you all wouldn't do the content because there's be the point in it.

Know how I have proof of this? Look at Diadem's first release and the forums about that. People cried even harder about 210 gear because it made raiders waste time, since they could have just done Diadem. So even at 275 weapons these posts wouldn't change. I actually even bet these thread's would still exist if it was 270.

If it was 275 there would at the very least be precedent for it. They pulled the same stunt in diadem the first time, but then admitted that the Gordian weapons should have been 215 and stated that the 210 relic was the hell it was to make it equal to the effort of beating Gordias.

This new fiasco shows that not only did they not learn a damn thing from last time, but they went back on their own philosophies. The most damning thing of it all is that Creator Savage is still on loot lockout, and there's at least one more patch left in the expansion

If they did this on the first of June, or even the middle of may, nobody would care. We'd just be coasting to the expansion then. However now, when we don't even have our casual murdering Steps of Faith expansion gate boss is just way too soon