I280 weapons were a mistake

[Drakkaelus]

I seem to recall running the ARF until my eyeballs bled. That...takes effort.

No, that takes time.

The hardest thing about spamming dungeons or FATEs is forcing yourself to do it when you could be doing something fun. But calling it, "effort" is laughable.

[birdy_reene]

See prior response. If I wanted a very good weapon, I would have gone with Triad/Kinna/Script weapons. The only reason I put the work into the anima was because it was supposed to be the best at the end, until SB. And then, just nine days after completion, it's not. I do not have a BiS weapon up until SB, I have a very good one. See the second sentence regarding very good.

Well you thought wrong and at no point did they in HW even hint at it being the best, you made the mistake of assuming, because of outdated info you fell back on from ARR. Sorry the fault is on you. "“Assumptions equal a loss of pride and the sting of defeat.” ― Donna Lynn Hope. enjoy your 'very good' weapon.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Can't honestly say I'm particularly bothered by the weapons. I'll soon have 3 completed relics and don't see a point to farming for a weapon that's only just.

[birdy_reene]

Oh, lets not forget Yoshi in a few of his interviews even mentioned he didn't want people getting set on BIS and was avoiding it, Every patch something better came long, a new primal weapon, A new casual content, crafter gear, ect ect. They threw a wrench at the "im a raider im so good, look at me, I got relic der der der" mentality at every turn. They gave you all the warnings you needed to know your anima had a good chance of being on a level playing field with casuals. Once again, "Assumptions are the downfall of every mans pride" - Gandhi

[ADVSS]

Oh, lets not forget Yoshi in a few of his interviews even mentioned he didn't want people getting set on BIS and was avoiding it, Every patch something better came long, a new primal weapon, A new casual content, crafter gear, ect ect. They threw a wrench at the "im a raider im so good, look at me, I got relic der der der" mentality at every turn. They gave you all the warnings you needed to know your anima had a good chance of being on a level playing field with casuals. Once again, "Assumptions are the downfall of every mans pride" - Gandhi

he also said that raid weapons would always be best i level, which is why they changed from 90 ti 95over the then current myth relic. And that RDM wouldnt make it in this game with how the roles and system are. And many other things

Point is, people have a right to be angry, for obvious reasons, but then who wants to go to a special area to do FATEs. if not for a silly pink weapon with random stats? That weapon had to be better, or it was DOA.

[Xerek]

Where, exactly, did Yoshi say the anima would not be the best at the end? Source, please.

[Seraphyna]

they have never completely invalidated raid gear/cap ilvl until a new raid tier or expansion is released. They've followed a very rigid progression system since 2.0. Everyone that has played for a while knows they replace gear eventually, just the timing of this one is odd and not normal going by past systems.

Um...were you even around for the relic weapon in 2.x? It wasn't outdated in nine days. It was BiS upon completion up until HW launched. But glad to know you were laughing at people who were putting work into the anima expecting the same because SE gave us no reason to believe otherwise. Says something.

This just reiterates to me that SE has no clue what they are doing with their game. That they are lacking direction and just changing things on the go. Truthfully, I don't have much faith for the expansion at this point. I expect certain jobs to be continued to be nerfed and homogenized while others are buffed. SE has their favs.

For a "casual" game, there sure is a ton of weekly grinding to stay on par with gear continuously being outdated every 2-3 months. That's not casual. That's a damn job to keep up with.

[technole]

Where, exactly, did Yoshi say the anima would not be the best at the end? Source, please.

It was after Gordias Savage when they made some ilvl mistakes, making the anima the same as the raid weapon ilvl. This is truth to this because the anima only went up to i240 during Midas, and the A8S weapons were i245. So you had to get an A8S weapon to get the highest.

This tier we had over 5 months of i275 exclusive if you cleared A12S. Plus this is the end of the xpac, and a victory lap step is more than okay at this point just like it was in ARR.

[Vulcwen]

"“Assumptions equal a loss of pride and the sting of defeat.” ― Donna Lynn Hope. .

Yep, Never ever go for loot just because it's BiS, it's never worth your time. It will be replaced, and you put yourself in a vulnerable position where you can get your feelings hurt, whenever SE decides to troll the playerbase. (And this is SE trolling, I'm convinced it's 100% intentional). What I learned from playing MMOs is that you should always consider "fun" as the most important reward for whatever you do.

Anyway, I find the weapon bad game design, I find it disappointing that SE would actually do this.
From a business perspective, however, it can be a good move. That carrot is gonna help keeping the diadem alive up 'till stormblood regardless of how good the content is, so they could simply rush the new diadem and spend more resources on the expansion.

[Xerek]

It was after Gordias Savage when they made some ilvl mistakes, making the anima the same as the raid weapon ilvl. This is truth to this because the anima only went up to i240 during Midas, and the A8S weapons were i245. So you had to get an A8S weapon to get the highest.

This tier we had over 5 months of i275 exclusive if you cleared A12S. Plus this is the end of the xpac, and a victory lap step is more than okay at this point just like it was in ARR.

A victory lap for nine days. And Yoshi was talking about the anima being weaker then the relic during it's development, and never said a thing about it not being BiS once completed. The plan was to be just like 2.x, and it was...until SE realized how awful the new Diadem was and had to toss uber-god weapons in just to get people to step foot in it.