Should the Heavensward Leveling dungeons and trials have item level requirements?

[Ama_Hamada]

I don't think the game should have to be designed cater to idiosyncratic requirements for your mental well-being. As was covered last time, from a quantitative perspective what you called "stressful" should have been a walk in the park, even if it required the healer to actual heal.

the game should not cater to the lazy and allowing a system that makes 3 people to do all the work for them. You are insulting me why now?

[Nixxe]

the game should not cater to the lazy and allowing a system that makes 3 people to do all the work for them. You are insulting me why now?

I'm not insulting you at all. I'm pointing out that you, or your friend as the case may be, seem to have a rather low threshold for stress in this game, as evidenced by your own explanation of the situation. I simply don't think game design needs (or even can) accommodate the totality of each individual's individuality. There is already a minimum level requirement, the simple fact that most players are interested in their group succeeding, and if worst comes to worst a kick function. We don't need further requirements. We already have the tools and environment we need to solve the situation already.

[Ama_Hamada]

I'm not insulting you at all. I'm pointing out that you, or your friend as the case may be, seem to have a rather low threshold for stress in this game, as evidenced by your own explanation of the situation. I simply don't think game design needs (or even can) accommodate the totality of each individual's individuality. There is already a minimum level requirement, the simple fact that most players are interested in their group succeeding, and if worst comes to worst a kick function. We don't need further requirements. We already have the tools and environment we need to solve the situation already.

Yes you do, people harass others though premades and expect you to deal with it. I left a DF and even took a 30 min because I refused to carry someone undergraed in array. You have no idea on the degree of undergrear we speak of, they should not be allowed in.

Have you ever been in sastasha with people using level 1 gear? yes it is easy to carry but i am tired of doing it. It is getting worse and worse with it being more and more frequent. People are not learning, ALL DFS NEED requirements to enter, I/E it is not asking much to have people be in level 8 + in all slots for sastasha. I am tried of seeing crafting and gathering accessory in the DF. Level requirements does not work if people are willing to exploit it and bypass it.

The REASON it is not in the game is because SE prob though it would not be needed. Honestly I wouldn't either. I never expect people be so selfish and not doing their best. I also never expected 1 person to hold a minor grievance (something that person caused in the first place with the repeated feign pulling) so hard they would chose wipe the run and forcing a vote abandon because they wanted to show the ability to MPK a person.

Also claiming you are not insulting me then do so in the next sentence, 10/10.

[Nixxe]

Yes you do, people harass others though premades and expect you to deal with it. I left a DF and even took a 30 min because I refused to carry someone undergraed in array. You have no idea on the degree of undergrear we speak of, they should not be allowed in.

Have you ever been in sastasha with people using level 1 gear? yes it is easy to carry but i am tired of doing it. It is getting worse and worse with it being more and more frequent. People are not learning, ALL DFS NEED requirements to enter, I/E it is not asking much to have people be in level 8 + in all slots for sastasha. I am tried of seeing crafting and gathering accessory in the DF. Level requirements does not work if people are willing to exploit it and bypass it.

The REASON it is not in the game is because SE prob though it would not be needed. Honestly I wouldn't either. I never expect people be so selfish and not doing their best. I also never expected 1 person to hold a minor grievance (something that person caused in the first place with the repeated feign pulling) so hard they would chose wipe the run and forcing a vote abandon because they wanted to show the ability to MPK a person.

Also claiming you are not insulting me then do so in the next sentence, 10/10.

I'm sorry, but it's clear you're really just not the sort of person I can have a productive conversation with.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

I'm sorry, but it's clear you're really just not the sort of person I can have a productive conversation with.

They need {Stoneskin}. Very much too easily 'insulted' imho.

On topic, I don't really believe having a requirement like this for leveling dungeons and trials is necessary. As has already been stated the tools to deal with this are already available and it would just be a waste of dev time and resources to try to create an absolutely stress free environment for everyone when it's not even possible. People need to learn to not get so easily stressed at these altogether rare situations and just move on with life.

[Ama_Hamada]

They need {Stoneskin}. Very much too easily 'insulted' imho.

On topic, I don't really believe having a requirement like this for leveling dungeons and trials is necessary. As has already been stated the tools to deal with this are already available and it would just be a waste of dev time and resources to try to create an absolutely stress free environment for everyone when it's not even possible. People need to learn to not get so easily stressed at these altogether rare situations and just move on with life.

You know what a real waste of time was? taking chat out of PvP, that is what truly is not needed
This change however is, and you still did not address Miste on those so called tools we have.

They are not enough.
1. You get a 4 hour cooldown
2. you have a 4 hour cooldown even though you have to kick someone jsut for being offline 5+ minutes.
3. So the kick feature is not a fix/solution to this.
4. there are toxic players expecting you just deal with it and carry them because they are with a friend in a premade.
5. it takes 5 minutes of being there before you can
6:

You can vote kick people, sure, but in the end they still wasted their time and everyone elses because now you have to sit there waiting for member in progress which sometimes a long time passes and you don't get a replacement and then sometimes whole group just ends up leaving and having to requeue...so...move on with your day? Maybe or maybe you end up wasting 20-40 minutes.

7:

Four times have gotten tanks wearing really low item level gear and wearing an i42 weapon one time <.< suffice it to say he couldn't hold hate and was getting rekt so bad the healer ends up dead from healing him and we had to vote kick...in the end we waited 10 mins for a rep tank and never got one so we all had to requeue.

8: I find issues with people rejecting a change just because they want to abuse it themselves, be lazy and have others carry them. Enough is enough it needs to stop.