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    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    What time scale? You want to gear up fast? Pvp. I235 in a few hours. Plus a shire piece. Run your towers. Now you have 2 270 accesories. That gets you into a9-12 which drops 250. In one day you can have 3 270 accesories a 270belt and a 250 head piece on top of your pvp set. Plus any 260 piece which you can roll need on in dun scathe.
    There's another good idea: PvP turn-ins for GC seals! In any case, consider the options for your own needs before forcing them upon others!
    [You have a calculation error there: it's 0.9 270 items per week through tomes (and you're pretty much dead for the rest of the week if you get more than 1)]

    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    How is running a dungeon for script tomes/lore tomes ($$) and gc seals ($$) all at the same time inefficient. I never said i spam expert once capped. I don't need gc seals that badly. Plus if i do feel the need to run a dungeon for gc seals i run unsynched for darklight gear.
    Unless you make around 8-10k seals per (~15min) run from the dungeons, I'm pretty sure it's a loss.
    You'll need to check the MB on your server to estimate how much, but you are def/ly losing.

    Seeing no objection, I assume you're ok with giving everyone the "need" option? This is what matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Unless you make around 8-10k seals per (~15min) run from the dungeons, I'm pretty sure it's a loss.
    You'll need to check the MB on your server to estimate how much, but you are def/ly losing.

    Seeing no objection, I assume you're ok with giving everyone the "need" option? This is what matters.
    Everyone does have the need option unless I'm missing something, show me one person who doesn't have the option to need on stuff.

    Yeah coz you need to grind out them seals if you want them... You can't possibly build them up naturally though playing the game and running stuff... You know have some progression over a period of time... Shock horror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Everyone does have the need option unless I'm missing something.

    Yeah coz you need to grind out them seals if you want them... You can't possibly build them up naturally though playing the game and running stuff... You know have some progression over a period of time... Shock horror.
    Yes, you are missing that it is role/class/job-locked.

    (If it's not a pressing matter why bother rolling on loot in random dungeons to exchange for seals?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Yes, you are missing that it is role/class/job-locked.

    (If it's not a pressing matter why bother rolling on loot in random dungeons to exchange for seals?)
    You are saying its a pressing matter, everyone else is saying they are adding some progression. Yeah so what jobs can't need on gear?

    Think the idea to let everyone need on everything is clever? Coming from 170 Sophia runs and 110 Zurvan runs for a bird where everyone has the option to need on it you think it's such a good idea to add this to 8 man and 24 man trials too... That'll get people any gear for sure >.>

    I'll try to explain this again, if I want gear specifically to wear I enter as that role (coz that's the common sense thing to do). If I'm playing my MCH and aiming gear drops I will take it (unless someone asks) because I was forutnate enough to have gear I'm allowed to need on drop. You're entire premise is that RNG is out to get you for not having specific job gear drop at very specific times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Yes, you are missing that it is role/class/job-locked.

    (If it's not a pressing matter why bother rolling on loot in random dungeons to exchange for seals?)

    It would be unfair to make it ffa! I ran Sycrus Tower as Healer (and made my friend go as healer as well so he can pass) for about 20 Times to get the body piece out of it! It would have been even more if I didn't had the option to need on it! And it took about 40 minutes to get into the raid each time! So why should anyone else be entitled to get the body if they don't even dare to put in any effort for it. (Even if it's "just" entering as right role!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Forward and back.
    Since you never reply to my posts/questions, I assume it's because I am too logical and you can't compete with my arguments.

    I will still give it one more try: For what do you need those dungeon drops so badly?


    Btw I am wondering where do I get the mats for those ilvl220 items to desynthesize (thanks ) from? Because I can either buy them to spend a whole lot of money or I can gather them which will take much more than ~15min per 8k seals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Since you never reply to my posts/questions, I assume it's because I am too logical and you can't compete with my arguments.

    I will still give it one more try: For what do you need those dungeon drops so badly?


    Btw I am wondering where do I get the mats for those ilvl220 items to desynthesize (thanks ) from? Because I can either buy them to spend a whole lot of money or I can gather them which will take much more than ~15min per 8k seals.
    Yes, sorry, I skip posts if I see they're covered already.

    idk, why do you need them again?

    for mats ARF for lore cap (if you don't have it already) -> Hismena(? -the NPC in the middle in Rowena's place in Idyllshire). Check the MB first (demand and prices are low). only thing you'll want to get yourself (or have someone craft in my case) is the dissolvents, but that depends on your server's prices anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Yes, sorry, I skip posts if I see they're covered already.

    idk, why do you need them again?

    for mats ARF for lore cap (if you don't have it already) -> Hismena(? -the NPC in the middle in Rowena's place in Idyllshire). Check the MB first (demand and prices are low). only thing you'll want to get yourself (or have someone craft in my case) is the dissolvents, but that depends on your server's prices anyways.
    Brilliant! I should buy things from the MB to trade for seals to get mats to sell for gil! Now that makes perfect sense to do.... Or I can build up seals through the system in place as I am allowed (and so is everyone else) and actually make some gil.

    Urm who needs on gear for lores? Ohhh so all people need to do is get someone else to make money for them too! Coz that's not entirlely selfish... Don't even care if your friend offered to do it, a none selfish person would decline and do it themselves imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Yes, sorry, I skip posts if I see they're covered already.

    idk, why do you need them again?
    I need them for desynthesis, GC seals, which I need for crafting housing stuff for my FC house/private house (<3), and (most improtant reason comming in!!!) glamour. ^^
    Btw this is how you answer a question. Not with asking another question to sneak around giving an answer. Now it's your turn. What do you need them for so badly?

    I am wondering how a post can be covered by someone else if I ask you something directly? xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    for mats ARF for lore cap (if you don't have it already) -> Hismena(? -the NPC in the middle in Rowena's place in Idyllshire). Check the MB first (demand and prices are low). only thing you'll want to get yourself (or have someone craft in my case) is the dissolvents, but that depends on your server's prices anyways.
    Well, I am fighter, not crafter in the first place, so I run dungeons/trials/raids to get my stuff. ^^ Feel free to do it differently, but please don't put your playstyle on me. Thank you.
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