Stop Giving the "Need" Command for Drop Gear in Dungeons to Higher Geared Players!

[Cordie]

Shire gear is guaranteed. The Dunscathe accesory is guaranteed.

Shire gear is 0.9 pieces per week, the accessory is 1 per week. I think you missed the time scale entirely here.

My bard is i270. Lots of time commitment there right? So if i want to now commit my time to collecting gc seals who are you to say that is not as important?

If you did care about the time/seal you put into it you would go the crafted way (~15-20k/15min and I'm slow at crafting too -I know I have to work on my time management there, but uhmmm ..chatting...). You may as well choose to be inefficient, but not at the expense of others.

I roll on everything. If someone asks, I'll pass. But I'm not going to run a dungeon on my bard in order to gear up my lower jobs. I've capped shire every week. And I'm now buying pieces for my fourth job. Time commitment.
If you don't ask. You aren't going to get anything aiming in a dungeon with me. Gc seals are one reason why i have 60mil gil.
Sure it may be greedy to roll need. But i guarantee you I'd be rolling greed if that was the only option.

Then you should be happy if the "need" button is unlocked for everyone: you can roll need on other roles' items too.

I am by no means self entitled i demand nothing from df randoms. Why do you?

Self-entitled or demanding? Not really:

I have been lucky that most of the groups I had would "greed" by default. And my default choice is always greed. The only cases where I would roll need are:
1. I am with a <60 class and I need a green/pink item for an immediate upgrade
2. it's a lv50 duty (esp. raids) and I need the item for glamour
3. someone in the party has rolled "need" on an item just because they could -I'll be damned if I let their greed score them anything for my job.

Vindictive? You bet. (offline blacklist anyone? XD )

[bardaboo]

If you did care about the time/seal you put into it you would go the crafted way (~15-20k/15min and I'm slow at crafting too -I know I have to work on my time management there, but uhmmm ..chatting...). You may as well choose to be inefficient, but not at the expense of others.
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How is running a dungeon for script tomes/lore tomes ($$) and gc seals ($$) all at the same time inefficient. I never said i spam expert once capped. I don't need gc seals that badly. Plus if i do feel the need to run a dungeon for gc seals i run unsynched for darklight gear.

[Underdog2204]

How is running a dungeon for script tomes/lore tomes ($$) and gc seals ($$) all at the same time inefficient. I never said i spam expert once capped. I don't need gc seals that badly. Plus if i do feel the need to run a dungeon for gc seals i run unsynched for darklight gear.

Coz it's hard to understand you can do more than one thing at one time xD

If you are running content you need to be doing it for one very specific reason apparently >.>

[Cordie]

What time scale? You want to gear up fast? Pvp. I235 in a few hours. Plus a shire piece. Run your towers. Now you have 2 270 accesories. That gets you into a9-12 which drops 250. In one day you can have 3 270 accesories a 270belt and a 250 head piece on top of your pvp set. Plus any 260 piece which you can roll need on in dun scathe.

There's another good idea: PvP turn-ins for GC seals! In any case, consider the options for your own needs before forcing them upon others!
[You have a calculation error there: it's 0.9 270 items per week through tomes (and you're pretty much dead for the rest of the week if you get more than 1)]

How is running a dungeon for script tomes/lore tomes ($$) and gc seals ($$) all at the same time inefficient. I never said i spam expert once capped. I don't need gc seals that badly. Plus if i do feel the need to run a dungeon for gc seals i run unsynched for darklight gear.

Unless you make around 8-10k seals per (~15min) run from the dungeons, I'm pretty sure it's a loss.
You'll need to check the MB on your server to estimate how much, but you are def/ly losing.

Seeing no objection, I assume you're ok with giving everyone the "need" option? This is what matters.

[Underdog2204]

Unless you make around 8-10k seals per (~15min) run from the dungeons, I'm pretty sure it's a loss.
You'll need to check the MB on your server to estimate how much, but you are def/ly losing.

Seeing no objection, I assume you're ok with giving everyone the "need" option? This is what matters.

Everyone does have the need option unless I'm missing something, show me one person who doesn't have the option to need on stuff.

Yeah coz you need to grind out them seals if you want them... You can't possibly build them up naturally though playing the game and running stuff... You know have some progression over a period of time... Shock horror.

[Cordie]

Everyone does have the need option unless I'm missing something.

Yeah coz you need to grind out them seals if you want them... You can't possibly build them up naturally though playing the game and running stuff... You know have some progression over a period of time... Shock horror.

Yes, you are missing that it is role/class/job-locked.

(If it's not a pressing matter why bother rolling on loot in random dungeons to exchange for seals?)

[Underdog2204]

Yes, you are missing that it is role/class/job-locked.

(If it's not a pressing matter why bother rolling on loot in random dungeons to exchange for seals?)

You are saying its a pressing matter, everyone else is saying they are adding some progression. Yeah so what jobs can't need on gear?

Think the idea to let everyone need on everything is clever? Coming from 170 Sophia runs and 110 Zurvan runs for a bird where everyone has the option to need on it you think it's such a good idea to add this to 8 man and 24 man trials too... That'll get people any gear for sure >.>

I'll try to explain this again, if I want gear specifically to wear I enter as that role (coz that's the common sense thing to do). If I'm playing my MCH and aiming gear drops I will take it (unless someone asks) because I was forutnate enough to have gear I'm allowed to need on drop. You're entire premise is that RNG is out to get you for not having specific job gear drop at very specific times.

[AmeliaVerves]

Yes, you are missing that it is role/class/job-locked.

(If it's not a pressing matter why bother rolling on loot in random dungeons to exchange for seals?)

It would be unfair to make it ffa! I ran Sycrus Tower as Healer (and made my friend go as healer as well so he can pass) for about 20 Times to get the body piece out of it! It would have been even more if I didn't had the option to need on it! And it took about 40 minutes to get into the raid each time! So why should anyone else be entitled to get the body if they don't even dare to put in any effort for it. (Even if it's "just" entering as right role!)

[AmeliaVerves]

Forward and back.

Since you never reply to my posts/questions, I assume it's because I am too logical and you can't compete with my arguments.

I will still give it one more try: For what do you need those dungeon drops so badly?


Btw I am wondering where do I get the mats for those ilvl220 items to desynthesize (thanks ) from? Because I can either buy them to spend a whole lot of money or I can gather them which will take much more than ~15min per 8k seals.

[Cordie]

Since you never reply to my posts/questions, I assume it's because I am too logical and you can't compete with my arguments.

I will still give it one more try: For what do you need those dungeon drops so badly?


Btw I am wondering where do I get the mats for those ilvl220 items to desynthesize (thanks ) from? Because I can either buy them to spend a whole lot of money or I can gather them which will take much more than ~15min per 8k seals.

Yes, sorry, I skip posts if I see they're covered already.

idk, why do you need them again?

for mats ARF for lore cap (if you don't have it already) -> Hismena(? -the NPC in the middle in Rowena's place in Idyllshire). Check the MB first (demand and prices are low). only thing you'll want to get yourself (or have someone craft in my case) is the dissolvents, but that depends on your server's prices anyways.