Anyone else thinks Proto Ultima is fine?

[Moomba33]

My group wiped once then cleared it on the second try.
I was on my i240ish Monk to roll on upgrades and roomwide aoes were taking me pretty low.

From what I've read high dps groups are skipping a lot of mechanics and burning him without any trouble. So I guess this is an example of skill/gear gaps making fights pretty different like with Zurvan Ex.

On the overall subject I think the main problem is how the fight was teased. SE tried to be mysterious about it causing the community to speculate that it would be a standalone trial with a unique unlock condition instead of just a trash mob.
I dislike that it replaced the succubus as she fit the instance better in my opinion and I dislike the idea of content being removed.

[alimdia]

Nothing to do with gear, there are only two aoes that will hit you directly and only one of them is designed around getting your health bar low, every other aoe is proximity based and if you took a lot of damage you didn't manage that mechanic correctly, or you had blood for blood on, people tend to forget blood for blood = 25% increased damage taken.

[Keikun]

Its totally ok, its peoples fault for thinking it would be a 24 men trial based on proto ultima.

[Beckett]

From a hype perspective - They screwed up royally. They acted like this was something to get excited for, when it's clearly not.

From a gameplay perspective - It's fine. It makes the whole Dun Scaith run that much faster, and gets us some free gear.

From a lore perspective - It makes absolutely no sense. What are Allagan weapons doing on the Mhachi refuge, protecting the Voidsent Queen?

[Silica-chan]

I do not know how you can get slaughtered in this fight.

Getting killed and killing others with prey + MT trying to grab adds making the group eat a cleave + a few healers dying to the adds aoes while trying to scrap up some dead people = missed damage check with the 3 towers which kills everyone

It happens but honestly it was really fun especially because I killed someone else with the prey marker lol

[Rita1989]

From a lore perspective - It makes absolutely no sense. What are Allagan weapons doing on the Mhachi refuge, protecting the Voidsent Queen?

Its not protecting her, from the quest text:

Slipslix theorizes that it mistook a mighty voidsent on the island for a primal, setting out to obliterate it.

[Yasuhiro]

If Slipslix acknowledges we've been to Dun Scath that means we've already beaten scathatch and Diablos but when we return there and see Proto Ultima Weapon it's because he's detected either of the two void sent monsters presumably, when we're there in Dun Scath though it's like we are there for the first time but the quest dialogue implies we've already been there.

Really gets that noggin joggin.
What's the deep lore behind this?

[Jim_Berry]

to be fair it is proto ultima XD

but really I got what I expected the fan fest fight in game and really didn't expect to be its own trial due to this interview.

Famitsu: At Fan Fest we enjoyed the 24-man Proto-Ultima fight. Was it created solely for the event?

Yoshida: We plan to implement it in a patch for those who were unable to attend Fan Fest. You might want to look forward to how you access the fight.

Famitsu: Will we be able to play it in-game?

Yoshida: Yes, the release schedule will be similar to the Odin trial. Since that trial was stand-alone it led to the problem of people no longer queuing for it as time went on. We’ve taken a lesson from that and we’ve put Proto-Ultima in a new place, so please look forward to where it’ll be.

Famitsu: Will it still be a 24-man fight?

Yoshida: Yes.

/closethread

This answered everything! Thank you!

[Beckett]

Its not protecting her, from the quest text:

Slipslix theorizes that it mistook a mighty voidsent on the island for a primal, setting out to obliterate it.

Neat! I'm glad they at least tried to make it make sense with the lore.

[Ama_Hamada]

It had some potential but it is not scaled for people in 260-270 gear. I seen some of the extra aoes the mini things can do on day 1 and it can be a hard fight. It is just not scaled well and could use a lot more hp, like triple it so it is a 3 min fight while being a bit more complex with aoes