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    Player
    Llus's Avatar
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    Agret Fury
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    This was done to keep people doing Dun Scath for the forseeable future.
    They could have provided the accessory tokens for Dun Scath without including Proto Ultima and made it a true 24 player trial with other rewards. This was done to put the fight in the game where it would have relevance beyond a month like odin. Unfortunately in so doing, they ended up further eroding the value of the game in favor of attempting to appease casual gamers that would have been unable to clear it until they could unsync it in 4.0 had it been a difficult trial. I foresee a lot more content dumb-downed like this in order to capture a wider audience just as they did by providing a casual 8-player raid for heavensward. Hell, they've even said as much in the changes they plan on making to the battle system - make it easier to perform your rotations, get rid of skills that a lot of players don't use etc.
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    Kaiden019's Avatar
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    Astrid Wolfshowl
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    Gilgamesh
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    Ninja Lv 67
    I don't think it's great, but I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be. It's just.....there. In a few weeks no one will care.
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    Kira Ayakima
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    Siren
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    Dancer Lv 80
    I'm fine with it too. It was a really fun fight.
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    Ritza Solair
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 79
    Welp fought it twice (& still didn't get a drop for my MNK -_-) & gona say its an okay fight, its easyer-ish then Succubi but I found she had 1 "hard" mechanic that said "do this to wrong u'r all dead, maybe" (the big purple AoE's after everyone gets entranced) I mean yes if u dodge "Every" AoE & burn down the adds it spawns u'r golden especially if u'r using u'r uber-near-max-ilv-end-game Class (& everyone else is) but out of my 2 fights I saw a whole 8-man team worth of people die to it... on 2nd run a whole team died... so it is can be as hard or harder than the Succubi was just depends on ilv & player skill

    Personally feal like this is a Prelude fight that & SE "may" have something for later... maybe... hopefully
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    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Honestly, I read the interview front, back and sideways and I never got the feeling PU was going to be it's own instanted fight.
    It was NOT going to be like Odin, with its own instance but it would be a 24 man instance, as Yoshi P stated. Going by this, it would be easy enough to conclude it would be added into an existing 24 man raid, which is exactly how it happened. People misinterpreted this information or twisted it to suit their own needs. Either that or they saw, "it was just like Odin" and their brains just stopped reading at that point.

    The fight itself was easy but considering that it's a prototype of Ultima, a generally lack luster fight itself, I can't really be disappointed that he was easy at all
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    Kazrah's Avatar
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    Character
    Nonni Brilante
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 60
    I didn't mind the fight at all, mostly because it felt a lot like Steps of Faith when that came out in 2.55, where it seemed like just as much of a trial as it did a developmental experiment to test out new technical and gameplay elements. Also like Steps of Faith, it showed a fine line in difficulty where good groups found it nearly a trifle and worse groups screaming "OMGPLZNERF".
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Character
    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Just tell "The Wandering Minstrel" about Proto-Ultima and i am sure he will sing you a ballad that satisfy your needs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Just tell "The Wandering Minstrel" about Proto-Ultima and i am sure he will sing you a ballad that satisfy your needs...
    I've actually expected, that after I've seen that "story-mode" ultima, I'd go to minstrel, and will unlock the 24-man trial (a normal fight that lasts more than 1-2 minutes, with phases, etc).
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    Just tell "The Wandering Minstrel" about Proto-Ultima and i am sure he will sing you a ballad that satisfy your needs...
    THE FIRST 24-MAN TRIAL! (for real this time)
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    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    I really do not know some of the outrage some have had, not like we do not have Succubus or Succubus like enemies elsewhere...
    I am fine with it, even though it is uber easy i still kind of like it.
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