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  1. #191
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    That shouldn't be a problem. See:
    It actually is a problem makes us redo runs more just to get gear for our needs? it cuts on our other activities such as FC raids and such. It disrupts the purpose of having roles in a party. Kind of funny people who you can't their profile on Loadstone are mainly the only ones who you can tell that have a problem. Do you tank? Do you heal? of do you just focus on DPS because your either a terrible Tank or a terrible Healer? I can't say but that would explain a lot of things based on your responses. Could you allow public access? Just curious on your current stats and Jobs leveled. Also have you tried doing unsync dungeons? No tank and Healer and everyone can DPS and play the Job they want. How far can you get with that?
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 03-03-2017 at 05:26 AM. Reason: limit

  2. #192
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Why is gearing the only acceptable reason to need things? You can buy level equivalent gear off the market board. You are making the choice to try and farm an item through a dungeon vs. buying a level-appropriate piece of armor.
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  3. #193
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    Cordie's Avatar
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    Cordelia Primerain
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    It actually is a problem makes us redo runs more just to get gear for our needs? it cuts on our other activities such as FC raids and such. It disrupts the purpose of having roles in a party.
    Like someone mntioned before:
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Poor you. Run the dungeon again.


    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Do you heal? of do you just focus on DPS because your either a terrible Tank or a terrible Healer?
    Can't be bothered to look into that horrid Lodestone settings menu atm, however, BLM: what you see, WHM: i261 average with i270 relic, AST/SCH: same as WHM with i240 weapons (average should be close to 260, didn't check), lolSMN: what you see with a 240 weapon, DRK: i250ish with i255 weapon, MNK: can't even remember!)
    So, yes, I'm healer/dps mostly, tank for older patch content (to help FC/friends most of the time).
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  4. #194
    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    Like someone mntioned before:






    Can't be bothered to look into that horrid Lodestone settings menu atm, however, BLM: what you see, WHM: i261 average with i270 relic, AST/SCH: same as WHM with i240 weapons (average should be close to 260, didn't check), lolSMN: what you see with a 240 weapon, DRK: i250ish with i255 weapon, MNK: can't even remember!)
    So, yes, I'm healer/dps mostly, tank for older patch content (to help FC/friends most of the time).
    So in some other words you can't back it up and blame the settings menu? Ok that explains a lot and now I understand your answers. If you can't figure out nor even take the time to make an effort you have proven the point of most people here, even after break downs, and given optional solutions I can only come to one conclusion. You want things handed to you and IF by any chance you feel like doing it you will. "Poor you"
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  5. #195
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    Cordie's Avatar
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    Cordelia Primerain
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    So in some other words you can't back it up and blame the settings menu? Ok that explains a lot and now I understand your answers. If you can't figure out nor even take the time to make an effort you have proven the point of most people here, even after break downs, and given optional solutions I can only come to one conclusion. You want things handed to you and IF by any chance you feel like doing it you will. "Poor you"
    Not blaming the settings menu, but I really don't see any reason to go log in somewhere on mobile, and change privacy/whatever settings just because some random needs to check me out.

    It's much of the same for you actually, if you want things handed to you just because you picked a class/job to run a d/f dungeon.
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  6. #196
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    That shouldn't be a problem. See:
    I dont really see your point?
    You seem to base your opinion upon the idea that gear is ONLY needed for stat-progression when we already mentioned that that isnt true.
    With everyone being able to roll "need" (or greed) on an item it lowers your chance to actually get an item you're looking for, you realise that, yes? Because you're not only on the mercy of said item dropping but also rolling against up to 7 other people for it - with the current system you wont have any competition most of the time (safe maybe for dps and heals in the 24-man-raids, but we werent talking about those anyways) - dungeons are normally trying not to pair you up with the same sort of dps.

    So... when you wanted to advocate for OPs request you did a pretty bad job... and even if you didnt I dont consider your solution a viable one. Right now I can go into a dungeon and be sure that I will get certain gear IF it drops instead of having a 25% chance. Even for dps, who can, in theory, get paired with the same class again and have a 50% chance, this would suck - so who excatly would benefit here?
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  7. #197
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    Cordelia Primerain
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You seem to base your opinion upon the idea that gear is ONLY needed for stat-progression when we already mentioned that that isnt true.

    With everyone being able to roll "need" (or greed) on an item it lowers your chance to actually get an item you're looking for, you realise that, yes?
    So you want to have both ways to your convenience?
    Pick one and stick with it.
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  8. #198
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    So you want to have both ways to your convenience?
    Pick one and stick with it.
    You have the option to make your lotting life more convenient as well. Play as the job you want the gear on. The end.
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordie View Post
    So you want to have both ways to your convenience?
    Pick one and stick with it.
    You mean because I mentioned both need and greed? I only did that because the way you want the "need"-option to change it would actually be closer to greed - I might aswell have left one out or called it "nreed"
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You mean because I mentioned both need and greed? I only did that because the way you want the "need"-option to change it would actually be closer to greed - I might aswell have left one out or called it "nreed"
    No, I mean your 1st statement:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    You seem to base your opinion upon the idea that gear is ONLY needed for stat-progression when we already mentioned that that isnt true.
    And the 2nd statement:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    With everyone being able to roll "need" (or greed) on an item it lowers your chance to actually get an item you're looking for, you realise that, yes?
    Make up your mind.
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