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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    I mean, to be fair, PVP-ers get an equal shot at items us PVE-ers (raiders) get. I mean as shown with coil savage, our savage raids will be available to unsync once rendered obsolete/old content. The hard work people put into those raids while it was still current don't get to keep their exclusivity. If raiders don't get to keep their cake, why should pvpers? You get to enjoy it by yourself for a short period, but then you get forced to share, like the rest of us.

    (I'm not complaining, just making a point. Er...trying to.)
    What if the system start change from now on for both pvp and pve
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    I wish i had one but i don't care. There are always mounts i want get but i finish with my chocobo lol
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    What if the system start change from now on for both pvp and pve
    What? Lmao. How about you go read what the thread was actually about? If I don't clear a savage raid with the top 30 teams then I don't deserve XX?
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    Its suppose to be a game not a damn work station lol
    Hellluuuuuu
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    Last edited by Ssmiley_Bjakkzz; 09-01-2018 at 07:53 PM.

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alynn View Post
    What? Lmao. How about you go read what the thread was actually about? If I don't clear a savage raid with the top 30 teams then I don't deserve XX?
    No i don't mean be top 30 or something but for example if u didnt get Yokai mount u cant get it anymore now and that is pve content
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    No i don't mean be top 30 or something but for example if u didnt get Yokai mount u cant get it anymore now and that is pve content
    It you are going to compare it with Yokai, then more appropriate may be like a his:

    Be one of the top first 4 people on your server to complete all the tasks. The NPC for a the event only has 4 keys to give out. Once he has given out the 4 keys, there are no more.

    That would be more equivalent on than what you said.

    None of the PVE exclusives required any skills. Only time. The PVP is unique in that it requires both, but the skills and some luck are the biggest part.
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    Last edited by Istaru; 03-03-2017 at 06:08 AM.

  7. #17
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    I mean, to be fair, PVP-ers get an equal shot at items us PVE-ers (raiders) get. I mean as shown with coil savage, our savage raids will be available to unsync once rendered obsolete/old content. The hard work people put into those raids while it was still current don't get to keep their exclusivity. If raiders don't get to keep their cake, why should pvpers? You get to enjoy it by yourself for a short period, but then you get forced to share, like the rest of us.

    (I'm not complaining, just making a point. Er...trying to.)
    The flaw in the point there is that raids are not a competition by nature. Whether you're world first or the very last group on your server to clear A12S for example, you still get loot. Within that, a 1 in 8 chance to get the mount, AND it's repeatable (even if only a weekly chance currently). Feast rewards are rewards given for more than 3 months of competing and working for it. This isn't saying raids don't require work, but this is saying the two are hard to compare since one is a competition and one is not. And while it's true there are those who would cheat their way to these rewards, that's hardly a reason to punish legit competitors or diminish the rewards they compete so hard for.

    Furthermore, it's simply the nature of the game itself that even the best gear at one point becomes eclipsed and easy to get, purely through time and increasing new gear levels. This as well doesn't diminish the rewards raiders work so hard for, but I'm certain most raiders who enjoy raiding would already have their sights set on their next reward/goal already by then.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exira View Post
    Every1 had a chanche to obtain it, if people didn't bother about it ( aka ignore pvp) or if they failed to reach top 100 it doesnt mean they didnt have the way to get it
    Again you're ignoring the reason why that thread was created, saying everyone had a chance to obtain it is the same as saying everyone had a chance to exploit the system, be it trading wins, taking advantage of the lack of rank decay or that cast speed exploit (funny the guy linked here got into the top 100)

    You should go back and actually read the thread instead of rushing to make a separate thread for the same topic.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Again you're ignoring the reason why that thread was created, saying everyone had a chance to obtain it is the same as saying everyone had a chance to exploit the system, be it trading wins, taking advantage of the lack of rank decay or that cast speed exploit (funny the guy linked here got into the top 100)

    You should go back and actually read the thread instead of rushing to make a separate thread for the same topic.
    So since i ended in top 100 solo q.. I exploited the system right?
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  10. #20
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    M'telihgo Feilyon
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Again you're ignoring the reason why that thread was created, saying everyone had a chance to obtain it is the same as saying everyone had a chance to exploit the system, be it trading wins, taking advantage of the lack of rank decay or that cast speed exploit (funny the guy linked here got into the top 100)

    You should go back and actually read the thread instead of rushing to make a separate thread for the same topic.
    Technically, they are correct. Everyone had a chance to obtain it. They could have gotten into the top 10 or whatever just through sheer luck alone. Granted, their chances are like 0.0001% or so.
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    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

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