STOP ask for exclusive things to obtained in other way

[Exira]

Given we all pay the same sub I do think we should all have access to items added as in-game content so I don't like the idea of items that only a very small number of people can get (or time limited ones to that matter).

Every1 had a chanche to obtain it, if people didn't bother about it ( aka ignore pvp) or if they failed to reach top 100 it doesnt mean they didnt have the way to get it

[alimdia]

Every1 had a chanche to obtain it, if people didn't bother about it ( aka ignore pvp) or if they failed to reach top 100 it doesnt mean they didnt have the way to get it

Again you're ignoring the reason why that thread was created, saying everyone had a chance to obtain it is the same as saying everyone had a chance to exploit the system, be it trading wins, taking advantage of the lack of rank decay or that cast speed exploit (funny the guy linked here got into the top 100)

You should go back and actually read the thread instead of rushing to make a separate thread for the same topic.

[Istaru]

Again you're ignoring the reason why that thread was created, saying everyone had a chance to obtain it is the same as saying everyone had a chance to exploit the system, be it trading wins, taking advantage of the lack of rank decay or that cast speed exploit (funny the guy linked here got into the top 100)

You should go back and actually read the thread instead of rushing to make a separate thread for the same topic.

Technically, they are correct. Everyone had a chance to obtain it. They could have gotten into the top 10 or whatever just through sheer luck alone. Granted, their chances are like 0.0001% or so.

[ErryK]

Every1 had a chanche to obtain it, if people didn't bother about it ( aka ignore pvp) or if they failed to reach top 100 it doesnt mean they didnt have the way to get it

When the reward is locked to 100 people only, it isn't everyone having a chance, it's 500 people having a guaranteed reward while the nearly 400,500 rest of populace gets zilch.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

When the reward is locked to 100 people only, it isn't everyone having a chance, it's 500 people having a guaranteed reward while the nearly 400,500 rest of populace gets zilch.

Zilch: A mount for every primal, weapons for every primal, new gear every patch (as opposed to the 2-3 patch gaps between PvP gear), new items to spend currency on (see the gear comment), new "maps" (dungeons, special content, raids, etc.), ANNUAL special events, side quests, and frequent, timely content support and updates. . .

. . . And that's just battle content.

Don't you dare say you get "zilch". PvPers and PvP content barely get anything but scorn, avoidance and barebones support from both the players and SE themselves. And now that they're FINALLY getting something nice for once, you're getting "zilch"? Don't even.

[ErryK]

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The Hellhound mount is not rewarded from any of the content you listed, that's the point I'm trying to make.

Make it be rewarded by 1,000 feast wins, or 1,000 kills in feast, or 1,000 assists in feast. Make it be rewarded by the system it uses. I'm not saying PvPers don't deserve any rewards, but everyone should have a chance at getting the reward if they are able to put in the time and effort as the ones who did the competition did, but not as soon as the season is over, my personal choice would be 5 years after the season, but some people might say that's pushing it, but 5 years is a long time anyways so...

[jameseoakes]

Zilch: A mount for every primal, weapons for every primal, new gear every patch (as opposed to the 2-3 patch gaps between PvP gear), new items to spend currency on (see the gear comment), new "maps" (dungeons, special content, raids, etc.), ANNUAL special events, side quests, and frequent, timely content support and updates. . .

. . . And that's just battle content.

Don't you dare say you get "zilch". PvPers and PvP content barely get anything but scorn, avoidance and barebones support from both the players and SE themselves. And now that they're FINALLY getting something nice for once, you're getting "zilch"? Don't even.

PVP probably has had the most rewards of any single bit of content in Heavansward (I think it's now on 3 full gears sets, 3 glamour sets, 9 mounts (counting season 4 rewards) and 6 minions, that's hardly Zilch

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

PVP probably has had the most rewards of any single bit of content in Heavansward (I think it's now on 3 full gears sets, 3 glamour sets, 9 mounts (counting season 4 rewards) and 6 minions, that's hardly Zilch

Are we really going to try to play tit for tat here? 3.5 and the Garo event brought a lot of stuff, yes, but if we're talking Heavensward alone:


PvP Gear (Max): i180 in 3.05, i205 in 3.25, now i235 in Patch 3.5
PvE Gear (Max): i210/215 in 3.05, i240/245 in 3.25, now i270/275 in 3.5. . . with plenty of dungeon, raid, alliance raid, and crafted gear filling the gaps between 210 and 270 in every major patch. Let me also point out the lack of anything for PvP between 3.25 and 3.5.

PvP Mounts: NOT including the GC Warsteeds or the original black ADS - All from ARR - there's the Gloria mount from the Feast, the White ADS from Shatter, the Season 3 Hellhounds, and now 3 Garo mounts. 3.25, 3.3, now 3.5; when you consider that many of these are achievement based rewards from content many people simply choose not to do, it's no surprise they remain somewhat "exclusive", the Garo mounts being the exception as they were made easy enough to get within a day. 11 mounts total.
PvE Mounts: All 7 Primal mounts, all 3 Gold Saucer mounts, the Griffin, the Manacutter, Midgardsormr, the Black Chocobo, the Asterope, the Pegasus, the 2 PotD mounts, both Alexander Savage mounts, all 3 beast tribe mounts, and the Firebird. . . This does NOT include Mogstation, special event, Recruit-A-Friend, and region exclusive mounts for a total of 24.

Should I even get into Minions? Orchestrion Rolls? Materia? PvP definitely does NOT have the most rewards of anything in Heavensward, and what we do have must be worked for. The issue lies in people not wanting to work for them, yet crying foul that they don't get 2 out of a possible 11 PvP mounts (again, Heavensward only) despite the 24 they can get without even thinking about PvP. But yeah, everyone else gets "zilch" right?

[Zojha]

But yeah, everyone else gets "zilch" right?

Considering that nothing you list is relevant to the original "zilch" comment, uh...yeah.

The correct counterargument to the original comment is:"No, even if you do not place top 100/30, you still get accessories. Therefore, everyone who participates in the Feast Rankings but does not place top 100/30 does get something and since something is more than nothing, the 400k+ players you were referring to consequently don't get 'zilch', but accessories."

Simple, logical, relevant.

[Zigabar]

Considering that nothing you list is relevant to the original "zilch" comment, uh...yeah.

The correct counterargument to the original comment is:"No, even if you do not place top 100/30, you still get accessories. Therefore, everyone who participates in the Feast Rankings but does not place top 100/30 does get something and since something is more than nothing, the 400k+ players you were referring to consequently don't get 'zilch', but accessories."

Simple, logical, relevant.

This person and their logic. Get outta here! Don't you know being triggered is more fun?