Is our sub fee not enought

[Alleo]

Pretty sure I read somewhere once that Mogstation profits go to SE not to the FFXIV Dev team.

Well all the money that is earned will probably go to SE and not the dev team since they are a big company. And from all the money that SE earned the dev team will get a budget that they will have to work with. So there is a high chance that all we do with buying these things is making more money for SE itself.

@Seig345+ Kuroneko_Jutah: Well I dont raid and I love collecting pets and mounts, I also like to glamour my character..yet if I want a complete list I would need to buy something for real life money. At least for me this makes the game a little less enjoyable..also where does it stop? Raid is only done by a small percentage of the player base. So is it alright if they put this content behind a paywall too? Glamour is to some what raiding is to others. Why is it acceptable to have to pay for glamour but not for raids? They might start with only those items in the cash shop but I fear what they will put there in the future..

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

*snip*

I do actually agree that more of these types of items should be made available through other means, or at the very least brought down to a reasonable price. But I'm not picky about how I spend my entertainment budget. If I want something from mog station badly enough, I will pay for it. As far as I'm concerned, I'm supporting my favorite game in this way. I'm not going to sit here and point fingers at Yoshi for a decision that was in all likelihood made by someone else entirely, and more to the point, someone who doesn't report to him.

[SundayTrash]

In that case wheres our in game parsers we been asking for, why not put it in the mog station, so ppl can buy it up and realize how much they suck and actually learn to play instead of requesting more mog station exclusive.

[Roda]

It's sad when F2P games have a less exploitative payment model than a sub based game.

Edit:

They don't want to put a parser in the game because they're (rightly) afraid of someone breaking into it and reverse engineering the damage formulas so they can manipulate and exploit them.

I'm sorry, what?

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

In that case wheres our in game parsers we been asking for, why not put it in the mog station, so ppl can buy it up and realize how much they suck and actually learn to play instead of requesting more mog station exclusive.

They don't want to put a parser in the game because they're (rightly) afraid of someone breaking into it and reverse engineering the damage formulas so they can manipulate and exploit them. But why am I bothering to tell you, you'll just call it an excuse and continue your angry ranting from your e-soapbox.

[seraf]

It's sad when F2P games have a less exploitative payment model than a sub based game.

Except for the part where most F2P cashshops actually rely on Pay2Win items for the players to buy and manipulate aspects of the game to entice the P2W gambling mentality in order to make more profits. Some companies such as Aeria Games are the most notorious for this.

[Iromi]

I'm not buying this...it's a bit questionable as as a legacy player to see this.

To me, I happily supported the game when it needed it, but this is just greedy. First it started with making people pay for past event items, when they used to be in vendors, now never before seen emotes are in there instead of quests.

Easily have the money to buy it but I feel this is truly crossing the line. If I wanted a free to play game, I'd go find one. Might as well at this point..or no game at all if this is the direction of P2P games. I am really, truly losing interest between this and the so called ultima fight. makes me sad because I've loved this game for so long.

[alimdia]

They don't want to put a parser in the game because they're (rightly) afraid of someone breaking into it and reverse engineering the damage formulas so they can manipulate and exploit them. But why am I bothering to tell you, you'll just call it an excuse and continue your angry ranting from your e-soapbox.

Fearmongering isn't gonna win you points.

[Roda]

Except for the part where most F2P cashshops actually rely on Pay2Win items for the players to buy and manipulate aspects of the game to entice the P2W gambling mentality in order to make more profits. Some companies such as Aeria Games are the most notorious for this.

Nope. (Notice I didn't say all. There are better companies than Aeria and nexon out there) Not wildstar. Not gw2. Not only are their shops mostly cosmetic with sprinkles of convenience, you can earn everything with enough in-game play.

[seraf]

Fearmongering isn't gonna win you points.

The part about people using an official parser to reverse engineer or datamine how damage formulas work is actually a legit concern for SE and is probably one of the reasons they have been reluctant to add one at all.