Is our sub fee not enought

[alimdia]

The part about people using an official parser to reverse engineer or datamine how damage formulas work is actually a legit concern for SE and is probably one of the reasons they have been reluctant to add one at all.

Nothing is gonna be exploited just because people know how a damage formula works, people have been figuring out that stuff for years now to determine stat weights.

He was clear about what's his fear regarding parsers in the fan fest, you should watch it.

You guys are overreacting look at any list of top grossing mmos and this game will not be on it , like having a sub base actually turns players off and not everyone likes ff genre. But those of us whom do shouldnt be complaining when this game wants to make an extra buck , it supports the game this game isnt drowning in money so every little bit helps stop complaining if you dont want the items dont buy them.

Can you post that list? I'm certain this game is a top 5 game

[Lufir]

The part about people using an official parser to reverse engineer or datamine how damage formulas work is actually a legit concern for SE and is probably one of the reasons they have been reluctant to add one at all.

Please be careful when watching MrHappy videos and instantly turning his assumptions and opinions into facts. When the question about official parsers being implemented was asked at the Live Letter at EU Fanfest, Yoshida said the concern was players using this tool against others in a harassing way. Nothing else was mentioned about this "reverse engineering" debacle.

[VanBeathoven]

In my opinion there should´nt be an item shop at all in an pay2play mmo
Everything should be obtainable ingame.
maybe a shop with Microtransactions, but when I see the prices from
the shop ...huehue

[Iromi]

In my opinion there should´nt be an item shop at all in an pay2play mmo
Everything should be obtainable ingame.
maybe a shop with Microtransactions, but when I see the prices from
the shop ...huehue

This. I thought this is what a P2P MMO is. You pay a sub and in turn get things via questing and grinding. If this is the way the subgenre is going I may as well just quit MMORPG all together. Can't stand F2P or B2P, seems like P2P is turning into all 3. No thank you. Guess it just makes quitting easier lol.

[Roda]

It's sad when F2P games have a less exploitative payment model than a sub based game.

Edit:

They don't want to put a parser in the game because they're (rightly) afraid of someone breaking into it and reverse engineering the damage formulas so they can manipulate and exploit them.

I'm sorry, what?

[seraf]

It's sad when F2P games have a less exploitative payment model than a sub based game.

Except for the part where most F2P cashshops actually rely on Pay2Win items for the players to buy and manipulate aspects of the game to entice the P2W gambling mentality in order to make more profits. Some companies such as Aeria Games are the most notorious for this.

[Roda]

Except for the part where most F2P cashshops actually rely on Pay2Win items for the players to buy and manipulate aspects of the game to entice the P2W gambling mentality in order to make more profits. Some companies such as Aeria Games are the most notorious for this.

Nope. (Notice I didn't say all. There are better companies than Aeria and nexon out there) Not wildstar. Not gw2. Not only are their shops mostly cosmetic with sprinkles of convenience, you can earn everything with enough in-game play.

[Iromi]

I'm not buying this...it's a bit questionable as as a legacy player to see this.

To me, I happily supported the game when it needed it, but this is just greedy. First it started with making people pay for past event items, when they used to be in vendors, now never before seen emotes are in there instead of quests.

Easily have the money to buy it but I feel this is truly crossing the line. If I wanted a free to play game, I'd go find one. Might as well at this point..or no game at all if this is the direction of P2P games. I am really, truly losing interest between this and the so called ultima fight. makes me sad because I've loved this game for so long.

[ErikMynhier]

Yoiu don't "have" to get anything from the mogstation... I dunno where people get the idea they are forced to.

Sure I don't like the fact there are things being added soley to the mogstation but it is no where near necessary to obtain them. Wanting and needing are two very different things.

If you buy them then you really should be looking to yourself as the problem.

Thank you. All this outrage, telling others they are bad for spending money, and complaints of a business trying to make money.... it smacks of such entitled first world problems it makes me ill sometimes.

[ManuelBravo]

I can understand putting past events items on mog station, but new emote/glamour/mount that goes straight to mogstation while not giving active sub a chance to obtain them in game is just pure greed, and whats even worst is that most item are solely single character, or if u have alt or future alt u will have to buy it again.

Actually is linked to account unless you have multiple accounts. Second You don't have to, it's optional. Last, past events well people get their chances. Now if your a struggling student I can udnerstand but some things are more like...why would people pay for it? Oh yeah to show off or actually seems decent.