DPS obsession in farm groups

[Mature]

It's nice and an advantage to have a group with such high DPS but what do you do with it if you cannot perform?

Mechanics > Dps

I'm more amused about PF with "Farm , NO BONUS" when their DPS and their performance are beyond poor. Just take Niddhog ex as an example. The amount of wipes at bombs and nails are something very common...

People should be more focus on mechanics rather than asking for high DPS.

Just throwing this out there.

[Watachy]

OP you do realize that most people out there are sick to carry others right ?

In my ZurvEx farm i always find 1 or 2 persons being below average DPS.
I mean, yeah a full lore i270 BRD with 1350 DPS on Zurvan.

LUL

[ffchampion]

FYI. If people shame others specifically for low DPS you can report them. it's against TOS and they've said they don't really mind them as long as you don't tell others what their dps is like.

As soon as i see someone quote specific DPS's i report them. So far reported about 8 people from Zurvan alone

[Aquaslash]

I do have a question. So Zurvan Extreme, 5 dps to skip Soar, Soar does not get skipped. Who's fault is it if it causes a wipe? The group for being unable to stay alive during Soar or the dps for not skipping it?

It's a genuine question. I know who I would consider at fault.

The former, and only the former. Mechanic skipping is a bonus for performing above and beyond the call of duty. It is not and should not be the bloody standard. Your whole group is trash for being unable to do a mechanic and relying on brute force to bypass it.

God, Zuravan EX is such a godawful fight. I really hope they never allow mechanic skipping again. Yes, I'm triggered. The mentality this battle has created is disgusting.

FYI. If people shame others specifically for low DPS you can report them. it's against TOS and they've said they don't really mind them as long as you don't tell others what their dps is like.

As soon as i see someone quote specific DPS's i report them. So far reported about 8 people from Zurvan alone

Report people for calling out a DPS, but it's ok to put a healer or tank on blast when they don't do their job, right?

[Xlantaa]

A community where we call out underperforming people for not putting in as much effort as everyone else? Yes, please!

No, a community who throw shit to everyone who does nor play perfectly.

[Atreyu]

No, a community who throw shit to everyone who does nor play perfectly.

There's a significant difference between someone who is not the best player/not the best geared and someone who is borderline afking.

[Xlantaa]

There's a significant difference between someone who is not the best player/not the best geared and someone who is borderline afking.

Then. Why a party who do perfectly the mechanics, down the boss, but didn't skip first soar is a bad party? Because that's he problem right now. You can do the fight with no deaths and all perfect without skip soar and people sill will say sucks because no skip soar. That's the thing here.

[ffchampion]

Report people for calling out a DPS, but it's ok to put a healer or tank on blast when they don't do their job, right?

Normally with Tank/Heal if you are blaming them its due to deaths/wipes. Blaming DPS is for not doing things as quick as you would like. That's the difference here. People not being happy with how quick it is. If a DPS is causing wipes then they should be held accountable. If a DPS is doing low damage then yes mention it. but you don't be a knob and say "you did x amount. git gud" as what i've seen a lot.

EDIT: Also. reason for reporting as well is that it is against the TOS!

[Atreyu]

Then. Why a party who do perfectly the mechanics, down the boss, but didn't skip first soar is a bad party? Because that's he problem right now. You can do the fight with no deaths and all perfect without skip soar and people sill will say sucks because no skip soar. That's the thing here.

I think that should be up to the party leader and the people who join, to be honest.

If one person creates a party saying that they want to skip soar and they get a ton of people clawing to want to get in and then another person makes a party that says DPS doesn't matter as long as they clear and is a ghost town... well, the community has spoken. Vice versa is also true.

Regardless, if you join group A, then you should be held to the standard that's expected, yes? Just as much as someone who complains about low DPS in party B should be shown the door.

[Lauren]

Let's say you're running a normal 2 Tank, 2 Heal set up. And 2 out of 4 of the DPS are pushing high DPS and the other two are barely pushing the bare minimum. It's kind of fair for people to have a moan. Because as soon as you start losing your top DPS, runs take longer, farms take longer and people drop quicker.

I'm not saying you should name or shame but when I've joined groups and I'm out DPSing people by a huge margin and runs are going slow because of this, I won't stay long. I generally won't say anything because I don't wanna moan too much at people about their DPS but I also don't want runs to last longer than they need to. But I'm talking about a huge difference here. Where people aren't even hitting a basic DPS line or if the tank or healer are consistently out DPSing the DPS.