Naoki Yoshida's Comment in Regard to Jump Potions/Boost Potions

[ADVSS]

First and foremost, it is not pay to win as that inherently implies people needs win something. Themepark MMOs whose progression content is entirely based on grinding endgame gear cannot be pay to win by simply selling levels. I could hand over my account-- full BiS-- and not only would whoever took it have no clue how to play Dragoon, the gear I have will be completely obsolete the following raid tier. Pay to win would necessitate being able to purchase current endgame gear or some sort of power boost that provided an advantage otherwise unobtainable through reasonable play. Considering the jump potion won't even skip players to max level, it offers them nothing except a story skip.

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I dont actually see the difference. If you can skip to x point they might as well sell the latest tome gear in the cash shop so you can go straight to raiding.grinding to gear up ilevel requires alot of the same time to get your level up, youre gonna be running dungeons ad naseum.. Just because it "seems" different, its only that way if you dont look at the system for what it is.

[Spiroglyph]

I dont actually see the difference. If you can skip to x point they might as well sell the latest tome gear in the cash shop so you can go straight to raiding.grinding to gear up ilevel requires alot of the same time to get your level up, youre gonna be running dungeons ad naseum.. Just because it "seems" different, its only that way if you dont look at the system for what it is.

You're equating allowing players to skip 4 years of content that will be outdated at the time the potions will be released anyway, to handing out raid-tier gear which even up-to-date players who don't raid don't have access to.
How are these two similar at all??

The potions will just enable new players to not be entirely left out and not feel like utter crap when they join a new FC and everyone's out leveling 60-70 while they're stuck queuing for sastasha, wondering when they'll be able to run latest content with their new friends.

[ADVSS]

You're equating allowing players to skip 4 years of content that will be outdated at the time the potions will be released anyway, to handing out raid-tier gear which even up-to-date players who don't raid don't have access to.
How are these two similar at all??

The potions will just enable new players to not be entirely left out and not feel like utter crap when they join a new FC and everyone's out leveling 60-70 while they're stuck queuing for sastasha, wondering when they'll be able to run latest content with their new friends.

Friends? FC? So we dont join FC that are helpful? I wouldnt call them friends if thats how things are run, and a FC full of people that wont do content with you is not a FC you want to be a part of, honestly. But I digress, your point is made. There have been boatloads of suggestions that would help speed the process up, and allow group participation, but the only option we have is this so its whatever.

[Jandor]

You're equating allowing players to skip 4 years of content that will be outdated at the time the potions will be released anyway, to handing out raid-tier gear which even up-to-date players who don't raid don't have access to.

You mean the main story-line of the game? Something that's about the same length as a decent single player game.

4 years of outdated content is a misleading way of wording that considering pretty much nothing else is really mandatory. No one has to run Crystal Tower, Ex Primals, Void Ark, Binding Coil and Alex.

[bswpayton]

You mean the main story-line of the game? Something that's about the same length as a decent single player game.

4 years of outdated content is a misleading way of wording that considering pretty much nothing else is really mandatory. No one has to run Crystal Tower, Ex Primals, Void Ark, Binding Coil and Alex.

With how this community is with anti bonus in trails, letting content die like its scum on the bottom of your shoe, a jump potion works perfectly in this game. Its no point in running story for instance if you cant do thordan extreme at the end of hw, or you cant get in to doing nidhogg extreme. The jump potion is a perfect fit for this games community quick and fast out with the old in with the new.

[Spiroglyph]

You mean the main story-line of the game? Something that's about the same length as a decent single player game.

4 years of outdated content is a misleading way of wording that considering pretty much nothing else is really mandatory. No one has to run Crystal Tower, Ex Primals, Void Ark, Binding Coil and Alex.

This is no single player game. It's a game where you play with other people, and it's only natural to want to run content with everyone else.

MSQ is something that will take a long time to complete, wether you have any interest in watching cutscenes or not. Running back and forth, carrying flower corpses in your inventory... all fun, but I doubt it'll be very engaging for new players to be doing that while being left out of what everyone else is doing.

[bswpayton]

This is no single player game. It's a game where you play with other people, and it's only natural to want to run content with everyone else.

Wouldnt say its exactly natural its more so your forced to run content with everyone else are suffer the consequences of being late to the party. Some people may not want to skip anything but sense this is a community based game there are hurdles to falling behind.

[RaijinSupreme]

This is no single player game. It's a game where you play with other people, and it's only natural to want to run content with everyone else.

This seems to be a hard thing for people to comprehend.

FFXIV as a single player game would be the absolute worst single player game ever created. I couldn't imagine playing this game by myself for its entirety. The appeal of this game, you know since it is a MMO and everything, is playing it with other people, and most people will be doing Stormblood stuff.

Just let them play stormblood. Like... just let them do it lol.

[Jandor]

This is no single player game.

The MSQ pretty much is. Outside of dungeons (where bots would work just fine as party members) interaction with other players is not needed and sometimes not even wanted.

Just let them play stormblood. Like... just let them do it lol.

Sure, don't see why they should be charged extra for that though.

[RaijinSupreme]

Sure, don't see why they should be charged extra for that though.

Most MMO's do give one free jump potion to new players and charges them for more if they want more.

Since the jump potion wasn't actually confirmed, we don't know if the first one will be free or not. They may, they may not, but at least the option would be there.