My issues with PvP

[loreleidiangelo]

But...healers have no damage in PVP. If a team can survive without them, then there's no reason to have them at all. You're functionally suggesting the exact same thing as deleting them from the mode entirely.

It's cool if people want that, but be upfront about it like Zojha is doing. That said, all I foresee a "no heals" mode doing is just leading to teams of like 2 PLDs spamming Clemency on 6 Fell Cleaving WARs, so there's that. Tanks would become the new "broken" without a massive overhaul to the PVP system, including separate balancing for PVP and PVE (way more than what we have now).

[Khalithar]

But...healers have no damage in PVP. If a team can survive without them, then there's no reason to have them at all. You're functionally suggesting the exact same thing as deleting them from the mode entirely.

I wouldn't say it would delete them from the mode entirely. If we must have healing, I've always been an advocate for the idea that healing should DELAY death rather than PREVENT it, there is a difference between those two concepts. I can elaborate on that point more if you want.

[Ama_Hamada]

I wouldn't say it would delete them from the mode entirely. If we must have healing, I've always been an advocate for the idea that healing should DELAY death rather than PREVENT it, there is a difference between those two concepts. I can elaborate on that point more if you want.

You can't prevent death when people go 100%-0% faster then a cast timer. Only way to prevent that is to have healing abilities ready while knowing it is coming so you can react. Again you need to be highly skilled and have so much foresight to heal in PvP in this game it is ridiculous. The server lag does not help matters.

You need to completely overhaul damage and rotations to even THINK of nerfing healing in anyway and SCH needs a buff regrdless. Clearly there is an issue here of a select few in this thread not knowing how fast jobs can deal damage in pvp, brd in particular, while actually playing healer.

Oh my friend reminded me of something, she picked off a summoner in shatter as a MCH when she saw that summoner's healer casting a DPS spell on the ice. The fact that was being done told her that summoner was free to take down from that and that is exactly what she did. The healer had no time to react and ended up fluid aura her then repose as some sort of healer revenge tactic, lol. (this is actually uploaded, neat vid btw ) You need very high awareness to be successful as a healer. Cast times are simply too long to react heal, you need to be having foresight to heal it.