Samurai Melee DPS thoughts

[Kiyashi]

There were full on ninja fate parties back when NIN came out. Even with queue time being a little long, I still capped NIN in 3 days straight. And that was without other options like PoTD. On top of that you get Story XP if you go through it on RDM or SAM. It's really not that big of a deal with Main Tanks and Healers queueing up.

[Xlantaa]

There were full on ninja fate parties back when NIN came out. Even with queue time being a little long, I still capped NIN in 3 days straight. And that was without other options like PoTD. On top of that you get Story XP if you go through it on RDM or SAM. It's really not that big of a deal with Main Tanks and Healers queueing up.

The problem is not that. How many healers and tanks will stop being tanks and healer to become DPS? That's the real problem. The number of tanks and healers will drastically descent by adding 2 popular classes both as DPS. How will YOshi-P compensate this for tanks and healers? What they will give us?

[Cinno]

The problem is not that. How many healers and tanks will stop being tanks and healer to become DPS? That's the real problem. The number of tanks and healers will drastically descent by adding 2 popular classes both as DPS. How will YOshi-P compensate this for tanks and healers? What they will give us?

This isn't even an issue. Players that main a Tank or a Healer usually main those classes because they enjoy tanking, or healing. They aren't suddenly going to hate tanking and vow to never play anything but SAM or RDM ever again. They will switch over and try it out, maybe even cap it. But eventually, they're going to shift back to the role that they enjoy the most. Everything will even back out in time.

[Zojha]

This isn't even an issue.

It can be an issue because even if you assume that people do not switch roles for long, you still need to retain the players as a whole. Even if you take out the possibility of any role population becoming more or less via role distribution, one of the roles might simply get bored (from years of the same jobs) and quit due to that.
Plus, there are ambivalent edge cases - classic example would be the guy who gears DRK second to get some swift queues when needed but doesn't usually play it in all other content.

So yeah, I can see tanks and healers becoming less an issue. But it's a bit early to see just how big that effect will be.

[Cinno]

It can be an issue because even if you assume that people do not switch roles for long, you still need to retain the players as a whole. Even if you take out the possibility of any role population becoming more or less via role distribution, one of the roles might simply get bored (from years of the same jobs) and quit due to that.
Plus, there are ambivalent edge cases - classic example would be the guy who gears DRK second to get some swift queues when needed but doesn't usually play it in all other content.

So yeah, I can see tanks and healers becoming less an issue. But it's a bit early to see just how big that effect will be.

I say this isn't an issue because this happened before when Ninja was released. I've seen videos of groups of 30+ ninjas running around doing fates. Of city states with crowds of ninja standing around everywhere, or running by. For awhile everybody was on ninja.. and then it evened back out.

The same will happen here. People will cap the new jobs, or decide they don't like them, and they'll be back on their old jobs, in the role they're more comfortable with. This could make thing's a bit skewed for a little while, but in the long run things will end up being like they are now.

[Xlantaa]

This isn't even an issue. Players that main a Tank or a Healer usually main those classes because they enjoy tanking, or healing. They aren't suddenly going to hate tanking and vow to never play anything but SAM or RDM ever again. They will switch over and try it out, maybe even cap it. But eventually, they're going to shift back to the role that they enjoy the most. Everything will even back out in time.

I don't believe in that. That what people say to convince themselves. But I can assure you I already know a lot of people in the game desiring to switch from their main tanks or healer to Samurai.

[RobbieH]

I don't believe in that. That what people say to convince themselves. But I can assure you I already know a lot of people in the game desiring to switch from their main tanks or healer to Samurai.

No that's what happened with HW and what will happen with SB.

And people who "desire" to switch are the same people who want to "switch because it's new" people, not people who are going to main anything.

[Belhi]

No that's what happened with HW and what will happen with SB.

And people who "desire" to switch are the same people who want to "switch because it's new" people, not people who are going to main anything.

That still will mean a month of god awful dps queues.

[RobbieH]

That still will mean a month of god awful dps queues.

Yes, that's why it's better for people to make groups for when early access launches, lost of people did it in HW.