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    RaideDuku's Avatar
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    Raide Duku
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
    Me personally, I am very happy for both of these as a new DPS job. I wasn't very fond of quite a few of the DPS choices and Heavensward really turned me off to a few others besides NIN. So having two more to actually select from is a godsend in my eyes.

    Can't wait to try them out. Hopefully I will main one as my new DPS job xD
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    ZhaneX's Avatar
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    Zana Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
    So if the point is to build and maintain total balance, then does that mean that 5.0 will introduce 5 new jobs? :P
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-
    If only this was reflected in the party compositions. >_>

    Personally I think 5/10/30 man teams would actually be more enjoyable. Hoping to see this when we get more info on the battle system updates.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    If only this was reflected in the party compositions. >_>

    Personally I think 5/10/30 man teams would actually be more enjoyable. Hoping to see this when we get more info on the battle system updates.
    Having played MMOs where the 5/10 man teams are a thing, I still feel XIVs 4/8 works better. Going higher than 4 in a party just means you need more DPS to fill a party.
    Honestly, Support jobs need to be a thing. A 4th role would shake up party dynamics a good bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Having played MMOs where the 5/10 man teams are a thing, I still feel XIVs 4/8 works better. Going higher than 4 in a party just means you need more DPS to fill a party.
    Honestly, Support jobs need to be a thing. A 4th role would shake up party dynamics a good bit.
    Support would be an interesting role. But without it, yes there would be more dps in each team. I see that as a good thing though. Firstly there are more people who enjoy the dps role than there are tank and healer oriented people combined, so it would balance the queues a bit. Secondly the way combat is currently designed leans towards using more dps. Off healers dps almost entirely already. Off tanks dps a lot as well. Solo healing or tanking is a common strategy for some content in order to push more dps. Might as well add some variety for actual dps jobs. Then we could see dps comps of 2 STR melee, 2 magic dps and 1-2 physical ranged plus maybe a ninja.
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    Lucienne Beauvilliers
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Why two DPS?

    Tanks - WAR, PLD, DRK
    Healers - WHM, SCH, AST
    Strength Based DPS - MNK, DRG, -SAM-
    Dexterity Based DPS - BRD, NIN, MCH
    Intelligence based DPS - BLM, SMN, -RDM-

    Now we got 3 of each. Know that's not going to make most people happy, but I know at least a couple of people that'll be thrilled there's a proper sword slinger DPS, now. Two, actually, if you count RDM being a sword slinger.
    This brings up a question I didn't find an answer to: why IS Ninja dexterity-based? It may have a few projectile attacks, but the job is not based on range, like Bard and Machinist. It seems more in line with Monk and Dragoon, with it being melee-based.
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
    This brings up a question I didn't find an answer to: why IS Ninja dexterity-based? It may have a few projectile attacks, but the job is not based on range, like Bard and Machinist. It seems more in line with Monk and Dragoon, with it being melee-based.
    its a standard gaming thing that all theif classes uses DEX.
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johaandr View Post
    its a standard gaming thing that all theif classes uses DEX.
    This, even in table top games like Dungeons and Dragons. Think of strength meaning raw power while dexterity means precision and technique.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

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    Paul Denton
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    dungeon bosses?

    So on the map that was released I'm noticing Genbu, Byakko, Seiryu and Suzaku hanging out around Doma, but who's the giant walking through the clouds around Garlemald?

    http://www.dualshockers.com/2017/02/...rai-new-areas/
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