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    Samurai Melee DPS thoughts

    I was honestly hoping for it to be a tank simply do to less people actually playing it, but in still looking forward to it being a melee dps as it's way more fitting in that role.

    What are your thoughts and do you think that que times are really going to be a non issue...I just don't see that personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreyVoreas93 View Post
    I was honestly hoping for it to be a tank simply do to less people actually playing it, but in still looking forward to it being a melee dps as it's way more fitting in that role.

    What are your thoughts and do you think that que times are really going to be a non issue...I just don't see that personally.
    Remember when NIN came out? It's going to be like that.
    But worse. Infinitely worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Remember when NIN came out? It's going to be like that.
    But worse. Infinitely worse.
    It's not the same because its coming out during a time when people will want to level their main job to 70, and its not the only option to level. Not everyone will want to play the new jobs right away cause they want to level their old main jobs to 70.
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    One of the DPS is a caster, the other one is another asian-themed class.

    No luck for me.
    And yes, I am maining Ninja, but only because it's the closest thing to a rogue available.
    I hate the aesthetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkaN View Post
    One of the DPS is a caster, the other one is another asian-themed class.

    No luck for me.
    And yes, I am maining Ninja, but only because it's the closest thing to a rogue available.
    I hate the aesthetics.
    careful what you say. i said i didnt like the huge focus on the asian theme and got flamed into oblivion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    careful what you say. i said i didnt like the huge focus on the asian theme and got flamed into oblivion.
    Don't worry, I know how to deal with these edgy weeb mancats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    It's not the same because its coming out during a time when people will want to level their main job to 70, and its not the only option to level. Not everyone will want to play the new jobs right away cause they want to level their old main jobs to 70.
    Right. A lot of people will be taking their main jobs to the new cap, including Tanks and Healers.
    Meaning, no one (except sprouts) leveling sub 60.
    If SAM and RDM don't start at 60, and i see no reason why they would, Then trying to level them will massively over saturate the queues with damage dealers.

    The reason i likened it to NIN is because its a similar circumstance, no one leveling/playing Tanks or Healers through the DF because they were all trying to level the new NINs. In this case, no one leveling or playing their tanks/healers because they all want to play SAM/RDM through the new MSQ. Hell, A friend of mine abandoned his BLM main in ARR for DRK main in HW and is planning to abandon the DRK in favor of the RDM. So that right there is 1 less tank in the queues.
    And even if there are enough players doing tanks/healers as mains in the new MSQ, they sure as hell wont be doing sub 60 dungeons to level.
    So trying to level the new Jobs in the first few weeks of Stormblood will be a nightmare of 2 hour long queues. Which pretty much means everyone will go for POTD. Leading to shortages of players in the regular DF, So daily roulettes are going to be awful too ...

    And when those new RDMs and SAMs catch up to the MSQ, it'll blow the DPS queues for post 60 content to hell as well.

    No matter which way you slice it, DPS queues are going to go to hell for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    No matter which way you slice it, DPS queues are going to go to hell for a long time.
    DPS queues have been hell ever since ARR launched...

    people are talking as if drk in 3.0 suddenly magically fixed the long ass queues dps had in ARR. nope, nope it didn't at all... DPS queues still suck.. my blm was still 47th in the queue for expert yesterday for example... (would have tanked but doing blm relic so need lights)

    Adding DRK didn't really increase the number of tanks in the game for example. all it really did is divide the players that play tanks across 3 rolls instead of 2. the overall number of tanks didn't really change much...

    They could add 10 new tank jobs in 4.0 and dps queues would still be horrible..

    if you were to compare for example the number of players that have tanks or even everything at 60. to the number of players that actually play tanks you'd see a big difference..
    If DRK was a dps and not a tank for example i'd bet it'd be a much more popular class than it currently is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    It's not the same because its coming out during a time when people will want to level their main job to 70, and its not the only option to level. Not everyone will want to play the new jobs right away cause they want to level their old main jobs to 70.
    Agreed.

    I definitely plan on getting my Bard to 70 first (and given Yugiri's connection in the story, get Ninja up to 70 as well) before I even think about focusing on getting Samurai to 70, and even then there will be new progression to work through. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

    Extrapolate that to those who focus on a tanking or healing class, and you can see why I'm not terribly concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    It's not the same because its coming out during a time when people will want to level their main job to 70, and its not the only option to level. Not everyone will want to play the new jobs right away cause they want to level their old main jobs to 70.
    Jump potion. People can jump sam to 60 upon getting it and go do Stormblood MSQ with it.
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