PLD, WAR, & DRK balancing ideas

[Reynhart]

lol I'm glad those are what you took from what I said. I really shouldn't have expected much else.

"I'll quote you without even typing what I quote and make a purposedly vague sentence so that I don't have to develop my answer".
Yeah, sure...

You weren't being rejected from PFs because SE made content impossible to do as PLD though

Who said anything about "content impossible to do" ?

SE will likely, and from a business perspective unfortunately probably should, cater to them.

Content that require perfect mastery like Savage are already not catered to those people.

I'll leave you to your unexplained "equity"...

[Chronons]

"I'll quote you without even typing what I quote and make a purposedly vague sentence so that I don't have to develop my answer".
Yeah, sure...

I'll leave you to your unexplained "equity"...

I guess my sarcasm went over your head. Apologies, ill explain for you. I found it funny that despite for the third time laying out the argument in detail you not only failed to engage it, but instead nitpicked musings about what "games" have or don't have a meta.(You are wrong about those by the way. White does have an accepted first turn advantage in chess theory and your responses to SF and LoL are that they have a more balanced meta, therefore they are examples of games without metas that favor some picks over others. That is a stupid argument.) Its not rocket science, other posters have engaged the idea and we had a parlay about their response. I know you read those posts because you keep copying my responses to them and attempting to weigh in, although even there you seem to lack an understanding of context.

I'm not explaining what I mean by "equity" any further, go reread, google things you don't understand. Again, others haven't had an issue understanding. Its not a failure of the message its a failure of the receiver at play here.

[Reynhart]

I found it funny that despite for the third time laying out the argument in detail you not only failed to engage

You're right, it's funny...because on top of not arguing anything apart "That's how it should be because I say so", you also fail to understand other's point, up to considering an opposite argument as "your point', and mocking the irony...It's also not my fault if you don't understand the fundamental concept of what a meta is and why it exists in games...and especially how it does not really apply to FFXIV, despite the term being pasted all over it.

I'm not explaining what I mean by "equity" any further, go reread, google things you don't understand.

I don't need to google it, I'm just pretty sure you're not using the word properly.

Again, others haven't had an issue understanding.

Funny how "not agreeing with you" is considered not understanding...

So, let me say it once again. This game should not have easier but weaker jobs, because it makes those who play those jobs away from the top team, even they have the personal skill to compete. And for those that can't compete ? Their lesser mastery will still be fully enough for the easier content.

[Chronons]

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Equity - the quality of being fair or impartial; fairness; impartiality. As expresses by the notion that playing a harder class, should come with some sort of award. DPS, in the examples we have been discussing. As you can see, that is a proper use of the word. Or maybe you don't, idk anymore.

Its "not agreeing with me" that displays a lack of understanding. Its the unwillingness or inability to develop a complete argument. Its the absurdness of claiming that FFXIV doesn't have a meta when concerning jobs, and a misrepresentation of what a meta is to fit your narrative.

So, let me say it once again. This game should not have easier but weaker jobs, because it makes those who play those jobs away from the top team, even they have the personal skill to compete. And for those that can't compete ? Their lesser mastery will still be fully enough for the easier content.

Broken grammar aside, this is the closest thing you have posited that resembles an argument in favor of your premise. I think you are saying that if SE made PLD harder to play and increased its DPS, that competitive players would be happy and that it wouldn't be so difficult that low skill players couldn't still play it? Im not really sure though, your phrasing is very difficult to confer meaning from.

[Reynhart]

Equity - the quality of being fair or impartial

Ok you're using the word properly, but aren't targeting to the proper concern...we want "equity" for players. How is it fair that players who likes some jobs are inherently less competitive, even if their skill is clearly on par (or even better) than players who chose more competitive jobs ?

I think you are saying that if SE made PLD harder to play and increased its DPS, that competitive players would be happy and that it wouldn't be so difficult that low skill players couldn't still play it?

Wow, just wow...glad that you finally understand that after the fifth time I said that.

If you want "easy gameplay", the first 59 (soon 69) are there to practice.

Every job (in the same role) should be able to do contribute the same DPS wise (personal of by party utility) at the same mastery.

Saying PLD is supposed to be the "entry level tank" is just stupid. You know what "entry level tank" is ? The 59 first levels.

There shouldn't be "mechanically easier but weaker jobs, only easier content".