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    Chronons's Avatar
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    Ulyssi Ironside
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    I dont think you quite understand.... The only thing you addressed is the premise, not the supplementary argument. I offered an argument, if you want to say its incorrect I welcome your critique of its conclusion or the leading logic. Thus far you have just repeated your own premise, introduced non relevant points, and attempted to reframe the discussion - although I am suspect to if you fully know what that means. Ive asked you to twice and repeated the actual counter argument to your position twice now. Probability dictates that it will go unanswered and you will continue to resort to your opinion as a point of argument. I will just leave it with "balance" is not necessarily "all things are equal", in fact it most often is "all things are given their due".

    Quote Originally Posted by DestroyerOfLargePlanets View Post
    Every competitive game has a meta. So what's your point? lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by DestroyerOfLargePlanets View Post
    I really think it SHOULDN'T stay that way because all it does is force competitive players into a meta
    This........ This is my point..... I hope the irony isnt lost on anyone...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    As long as those comp "rules" are followed pretty much any comp should be able to complete all highend Full Party content only limited by player skill development rates.
    Upon rereading and evaluating I agree with you, I apologize for mischaracterizing what you were saying with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Wrong. "Metagame" (which the term "Meta" is an abbreviation of) does not imply imbalance.
    I do disagree with this though. A Meta implies there are some picks that are superior to others. There isn't a Meta if all choices are equal, people can just use whatever (no outside info influencing inside choices). The fact that you had to use the term "nearly balanced" suggests how difficult it is to point to a truly "balanced" Meta. I do want to clarify though, that in regards to clearing content I agree with you - a Meta should not dictate what players use. I dont see that as being much of an issue for causal/midcore play as it stands. However the whole discussion is about the competitive side of FFXIV. There, I think, it is perfectly reasonable for a Meta to exist.
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    Last edited by Chronons; 02-16-2017 at 04:21 PM.