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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    If I was your tank, and did not carry Flash, Provoke, or whatever, would you want me to stay? Choose wisely, because if you take aggro due to healing me, I can't Provoke the add off you.

    Not having Protect shows you don't care for your job, others, the game, or yourself.
    Hmm yes they are both very simlilar :P Ah so you mean basically entering Sastasha with a marauder, been there done that and not an issue. Also tanked all of sastasha on healer, as we lost the tank at the start and never got a replacement.

    Also you need to think wisely which do you choose flash or provoke :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    If I was your tank, and did not carry Flash, Provoke, or whatever, would you want me to stay? Choose wisely, because if you take aggro due to healing me, I can't Provoke the add off you.

    Not having Protect shows you don't care for your job, others, the game, or yourself.
    Thats all well and good dude but do you know how little protect does at low levels? Its a symbolic gesture at best and symbolic gestures don't clear the fight any faster/easier. I'd be more mad if the healer didn't have Cleric stance instead of protect lol.
    And ur argument basically boils down to a strawman, those skills are not even in the same league of effectiveness as protect in low levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    If I was your tank, and did not carry Flash, Provoke, or whatever, would you want me to stay? Choose wisely, because if you take aggro due to healing me, I can't Provoke the add off you.

    Not having Protect shows you don't care for your job, others, the game, or yourself.
    And this post shows that you know absolutely nothing about Healing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Hmm yes they are both very simlilar :P Ah so you mean basically entering Sastasha with a marauder, been there done that and not an issue. Also tanked all of sastasha on healer, as we lost the tank at the start and never got a replacement.
    *SHRUGS SHOULDERS*

    I'm just one of those players who like things to be done the right way (or should I say, the way it was created to be).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    And this post shows that you know absolutely nothing about Healing!
    Yep, considering I started in PS3 beta phase as CNJ all up until I became a NIN/PLD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    *SHRUGS SHOULDERS*

    I'm just one of those players who like things to be done the right way (or should I say, the way it was created to be).
    Let me stop you right there.

    The game was created with the cross class system so that players could pick and choose which skills they wanted. The community realized that Cleric Stance is objectively the best option. Therefore, they are picking and choosing CS over useless level 19 Protect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    Yep, considering I started in PS3 beta phase as CNJ all up until I became a NIN/PLD.
    Time spent =/= Gameplay skill. Time spent =/= Good decision making skills.
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    Not here to argue; I already mentioned that I just like things a certain way. I raided on my WHM until I joined another group that wanted me to tank.
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    You came into this thread insinuating that people are selfish for picking something better than what you're used to, and you aren't prepared for backlash? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    *SHRUGS SHOULDERS*

    I'm just one of those players who like things to be done the right way (or should I say, the way it was created to be).
    Hmm nope it wasn't created that way at all WHM was created to have protect. The other classes chose protect as an optional cross class skill, the playerbase decided that protect was efficient at later levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Berry View Post
    *SHRUGS SHOULDERS*

    I'm just one of those players who like things to be done the right way (or should I say, the way it was created to be).
    Ah so I am guessing you don't run ex trials with 1 tank or 1 healer etc. As it wasn't created to be ran with the 6dps 1 tank 1 healer or the many other ways that the playerbase has changed the "normal" way of doing things. Just because SE has created a fight or class to go in a certain direction doesnt mean the playerbase will agree.

    A perfect example of this was FFXI SE brought NIN in as a dps and a SAM in as a tank. The playerbase rejected both those methods and made NIN a tank and SAM a dps. SE eventually caved and agreed that they best suited those roles. Also if we agreed and stuck with the norm we would still be in 1.0 :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennies View Post
    Let me stop you right there.

    The game was created with the cross class system so that players could pick and choose which skills they wanted. The community realized that Cleric Stance is objectively the best option. Therefore, they are picking and choosing CS over useless level 19 Protect.
    The community chose, but not all players can play the meta. Comfortability is my preference.
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