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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    The faerie can reliably solo heal every dungeon up to Haukke Manor. I know because when I leveled my scholar, that's what I did, never leaving Cleric Stance ever. You may not like it, but the healer is doing their job adequately. Doing one's job adequately is not about the effort it takes, but the end result.
    Well, I think "doing one's job adequately" requires adequate participation, and claiming someone is adequately participating and / or doing their job in content while being afk and while all other members of their party are actually participating just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    If DPS could auto attack for damage on par with using their abilities, they'd be just as entitled to auto attack their way through every dungeon, even if it takes no effort. They can't, and indeed on many encounters there are soft or hard damage checks that need to be overcome, which will not be overcome if they do not use abilities. In order to adequately perform their job, they therefore need to use abilities, even though it takes more effort than the autofollow scholar.
    But if there are no DPS checks, why should the DDs put in more effort than auto-attacking? Isn't it adequate by your argument, if they just clear the dungeon in 90 mins then?

    And how about the DPS checks that require tank and healer DPS, such as the last boss of Antitower (where both DDs are turned into dolls and the group will wipe unless the tank and/or healer do DPS)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Well, I think "doing one's job adequately" requires adequate participation, and claiming someone is adequately participating and / or doing their job in content while being afk and while all other members of their party are actually participating just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.


    But if there are no DPS checks, why should the DDs put in more effort than auto-attacking? Isn't it adequate by your argument, if they just clear the dungeon in 90 mins then?

    And how about the DPS checks that require tank and healer DPS, such as the last boss of Antitower (where both DDs are turned into dolls and the group will wipe unless the tank and/or healer do DPS)?
    I'm sufficiently confident that other players are enough like me to not want to make things take twenty times longer than they need to, especially content they've done many times before, that I'm not the least bit worried I'll ever encounter that situation. Even if I did, like I said, I'm really not interested in complaining at people unless they're hindering success to such a degree that it threatens completion.

    If the encounter is designed to require healer DPS, then the healer should DPS. Again, this is all part of adequacy. However, most of the time the healer really doesn't need to DPS. It's just a convenience that speeds up the run a bit.
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