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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    I also said "or never attempts to go for the ball". But anyway, according to you "winning" the game makes everyone "minimal good".



    It doesn't matter. Bad actions (including "taking no action" at all) are bad. Period.

    Don't get me wrong. I don't kick any people out of my runs, nor do I mention anything usually. But I will label bad players as bad (in my head or in conversation with friends) and won't play that down, because people like you are afraid to use proper terms.
    You're looking at good and bad as completely black or white. As an example, two Bards. Same gear. One of them has an imperfect rotation, but ensures he always sings the right song at the proper times. The other one never sings, but has a pitch perfect rotation.

    Do you simply label them both as bad?
    I am genuinely curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    Football well this is a really good example. So in your thinking a striker should be the only one to score a goal. The midfielders,defenders etc should make no attempt at scoring as they are not their for that. Oh BTW many goalkeepers in the past have even come out of their net and scored a goal.
    Actually, In my example (based off Neophytes first post), The goalkeeper simply never had an opportunity at the ball, since the rest of his team was good enough to keep it in the opposing half of the field, where the goalkeeper shouldn't be. Does that make him a bad member of the team? He performs his role perfectly well, But doesn't get a chance to perform a secondary role.
    Not saying that goalies have never scored goals (I've seen some incredible shots). My example should only be taken in context to what it was replying to.

    In the case of healers, if the tank and/or party is taking a beating and at risk of death, can you reasonably expect them to abandon healing just to eke out some more dps to appease the angrier members of this community? Because that is frequently the mindset of those who most strongly push healers into DPSing. Not saying ALL of those, but a fair number.
    If we liken that to the goalie, then should the goalie take a shot at the ball if it means the opposition will score a goal?
    All i've been trying to do this whole time is point out that not every healer you meet in a DF is going to have the personal skills, gear or party that lets them DPS as freely as others might.
    Its situational, dependent on several factors, the most important being how comfortable the healer is with performing the additional role of a DD.
    I'd rather clear it in a few more minutes than risk losing even more time to wipes or raised DDs with weakness.
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    Last edited by Sylve; 02-10-2017 at 06:44 PM.

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