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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
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    Piece by piece I will show that this is wrong

    In FFXIV, race sorta literally never matters. They don't want to add villages and/or cities for each race? Fine, but like race never even comes up. For example, one would assume that is anyone other than an elezen stepped foot in Ishgard, some of those people would be freaking the **** out.
    Both Elezen and Hyur reside in Ishgard. When outsiders even came near their territory they got upset.

    "What is this tiny little potato-like creature?"
    "Who are these glorious, giant beautiful Amazonian women towering over us? And why are the men so large and round?"
    "Omg that thing has cat ears and a tail?"
    Maybe they did that when they first saw them thousands of years ago. We're in present day. They know what a Lalafell, a Miqo'te, and a Roegadyn is.

    "Omg that thing has dragon horns and a tail! KILL IT!!!"
    Actually the Ishgardians did exactly that. And we're killing Au Ra. Do the DRK(?) story to get that lore

    But there's like none of that. Even every Elezen PC is treated as an outsider when one would expect them to maybe confuse a Wildwood Elezen as one of their own every now and then, but nope. You just show up in this place that has cut itself off from the rest of the continent, but the way they react, or rather the way that they don't, would make it seem like all these races have always been a common sight around Ishgard.
    Because Ishgard does not welcome Eorzean Alliance outsiders. That includes us. They don't care if someone is an Elezen. See The Brume. The story needs to be the same. Unless you expect the Devs to make a story for every race, gender and clan(24 stories). Not only that, if you did the side quests in HW, you'd know for example that the Sunseeker in Tailfeather mentions how she's the only Miqo'te around.

    You don't even really learn about any race's culture during quests or just talking to random NPCs. There's no Roegadyn or Lalafel who practice traditions handed to them from their homeland.
    If you do the quests in the game you'd learn things about races. Like Hellsguard traditions with Warriors and Scholars. Lalafells and Mhach, Belah'dia, Ul'dah, Sil'dahn, Nym. Miqo'tes and Meracydia, etc.

    They don't have their own unique gods.
    False. Highlanders worship Rhalgr
    Keepers worship Menphina
    Lalafells worship Nald'Thal
    Seawolf Roegadyn worship Llymaen(or whatever it's called)
    The entire Ishgardian society worships Halone.
    Wildwood Gridanians and Gridanians in general, worship Nyemia(?) And the Elementals.

    etc

    Everyone does all the same s*** and acts all the same way.
    Last I checked White guy and Asian guy down the street act the same as Hispanic guy up the street. But White guy in the neighborhood 50mi away acts completely different.

    Commander Rhiki acts exactly like Y'shtola for sure.

    Now, I'm not saying the hempen/starter sets are some genius, magical piece of world-building, but they offer us a glimpse, even if it's the tiniest of tiny glimpses, into the different cultures of each race.
    Not even a glimpse. It's a shirt and panties/underwear. With absolutely no culture attached.

    If nothing else, we at least get some idea of how they may dress back home.
    Dunno about you but when I went to the Miqo'te tribe in Forgotten Springs I didn't see not one Miqo'te in there wearing racial gear. No hempen camise in sight. I don't see any Roes with their gear. The only characters with hempen camises are Rowena's employees and they have no identity.

    I learned alot by visiting Forgotten Springs for sure. I learned that even they don't wear this so-called racial gear. I learned alot by visiting the Coeurlclaw camp too. They also don't wear anything like this racial stuff.

    And Highlanders wear their clothes in Little Ala Mhigo because they are poor. They have nothing else.

    And I think that's why people are ultimately in favor of keeping the sets locked. It's not the best or even good world-building, but at least it's something. And I think some people want to hold onto that at all costs.
    You mean the...12..15 people who want it locked?(Only one actually wears their gear 24/7) Out of the like.. 400 people saying "unlock please?"
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 02-02-2017 at 02:32 PM.