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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
    Personally I'd like to see more Race restricted glamour gear rather than homogenizing the sets for everybody.

    And I hate the Female Highlander Pantalettes...
    Couldn't agree more.
    Me too! They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Me too! They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority.
    So, what of all the loyal customers within that majority? Or are you somehow supposing that only those opposed are loyal customers?

    My wife plays also and has done from the start of ARR, she has been subscribed to the game continuously since then - as have I. She absolutely supports the removal of the restriction on the Hempen set styles - as do I.

    Are we not also 'loyal customers' who should be considered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    So, what of all the loyal customers within that majority? Or are you somehow supposing that only those opposed are loyal customers?

    My wife plays also and has done from the start of ARR, she has been subscribed to the game continuously since then - as have I. She absolutely supports the removal of the restriction on the Hempen set styles - as do I.

    Are we not also 'loyal customers' who should be considered?
    Read again, you're stating things I never said. You're reading what you want to read to feel like a victim (as you always do) when someone has s different viewpoint than yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Read again, you're stating things I never said. You're reading what you want to read to feel like a victim (as you always do) when someone has s different viewpoint than yours.
    No, I'm reading exactly what you wrote. Your post, in it's entirity reads;
    Me too! They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority.
    You were replying "Me too!" to a post opposed to unlocking the hempen set styles. and you made two statements after that;

    1) "They should consider loyal customers too." - the corollary of which is that they are not (in your opinion) considering loyal customers.

    2) "Not just the majority." - From which follows, you are in the minority in this topic, my opinion clearly aligns with the majority of the replies in this topic. You are stating that SE should listen to the minority, as well as the majority (which in your previous statement you clearly identified as being other than "loyal customers.").

    My reply asked what about loyal customers who agree with the majority opinion, you could simply have replied that yes, SE should listen to loyal customers in the majority and the minority - which they are already doing, having requested our feedback. Instead you accuse me of playing a victim card - which as far as I was aware was not even on the table.

    I also asked if you are somehow supposing that only those opposed are loyal customers - which is exactly the implication of your two statements taken together. I was literally asking if that was what you were meaning, you could simply have responded with a correction.

    I pointed out that I and my wife are both loyal customers by any definition, and asked whether we are considered "loyal customers" in the context of your post.

    I see no victim status, except that thrust upon my by you. I see no answer to the points made in my post other than a denial of the words you actually wrote. I think your post was quite clear, and you didn't like being called out on it.

    "They should consider loyal customers too. Not just the majority.
    Pretty clear to me.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 02-02-2017 at 07:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    If you want uniqueness, why not sport your unique glamour 24/7?
    I do though... cropped image of first pic I ever took in game in Feb 2015.


    Pic from Jun 2016.


    Pic from last week.


    And I hate the Highlander Pantalettes. So I typically glamour something else their, including various swimsuit bottoms, Hyur Skirt, Uraeus Skirt, Bunny legs, pants!, etc. Not having the option to glam the other races forces me to find alternative solutions to my Legs glamour. And tbh, while I will seldom glam the Hyur Top and Gloves on, I also extremely dislike the Hyur Boots so I almost never use those on glams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowde View Post
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    And imagine, you could find the things that you may consider perfect for your style if your options were increased. Your style is your uniqueness. Not the race. You just need the race to express your style. And even then you could probably push it further if you had more options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
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    Technically no, there are additional factors in determining the uniqueness of my style and the images I can capture.

    Race specific gear, Race specific hairstyles, and Race specific emotes.

    Don't misunderstand, I'm always for adding more glamour/hairstyles/emotes, but not at the expense of taking away from the existing uniqueness of each race.

    Playing a Highlander is a choice I made, and I have to deal with the "consequences" of that.

    For instance, I have entered a majority of the screenshot contest here (since I began playing)... and I could definitely make an argument that not having access to certain race restricted emotes is a disadvantage when putting together a composition for entry. The reverse argument is that it gives each race unique advantages that somehow balance out... I'd rather keep the unique stuff unique and EXPAND upon that with new RSE sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Me too! They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority.
    Think of it from a satisfaction point of view.

    Ex. You have 600 customers. 590 want a thing. 10 don't. It's pretty obvious the Devs are going to do it for the 590.

    If the minority is always considered, somethings just won't ever be done then. Like Alexander: Creator. If they listened to the "loyal players" instead of the majority we'd still have Gordias.

    Finally, in response to Kosmos, you said that wasn't what you said and Kosmos is playing victim. But it certainly sounds like that's what you said. You said "They should consider loyal customers also. Not just the majority." That absolutely sounds like a jab at all the people supporting the unlocking. That they are not loyal customers and what to have it to have it. They don't care about the game like *true* loyal customers.

    So I ask, what does glamour have to do with loyalty? Are we going to say people who don't want glamours unlocked are better, more loyal now?

    That's what your post says..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
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    Not just the majority

    Don't the words also and not just the majority mean that they should listen to both sides? In the statement it doesn't say magic mal or anyone that wants hempen set isn't loyal. Keep that in mind
    I was speaking for myself, I'm a loyal customer (not saying you're not), I want them to also consider me, not just the majority.

    If people look for things to feel like a victim that's their problem. In the statement it doesn't say people that want hempen set are not loyal.
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