the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

[loreleidiangelo]

So the Relic should be nerfed, according to TC, and now all raiders should have something that is specific to the Relic only? So can I then request that they take mounts out of the savage too, and place them also into normal? I mean, fair is fair.

Yeah I disagree. Your months of having a better weapon period should be enough.

I don't actually agree with the OP. I do, however, think that both raid weapons and relic weapons should have customizable stats so they can both be BiS. I'd also like to see the relic questline made more engaging - not necessarily harder, but definitely more interesting. It's okay if it takes time, but I think the current iterations of it have been thanklessly boring. YMMV, but that's my input.

[Laerad3993]

I don't actually agree with the OP. I do, however, think that both raid weapons and relic weapons should have customizable stats so they can both be BiS. I'd also like to see the relic questline made more engaging - not necessarily harder, but definitely more interesting. It's okay if it takes time, but I think the current iterations of it have been thanklessly boring. YMMV, but that's my input.

I could agree to that happening as long as they made the stat allocation and readjustments just as annoying for raiders, as it was to grind that out in the last few steps for Relic players. Wasn't sure if you just meant giving you the ability to do it freely.

[Thayos]

I'm getting too old for this.

[Felis]

I think that for the people who raid, not being able to customize their raid weapon really is a kick in the teeth, given the effort they put in. Top-end players will put in time for the thankless, boring relic grind just for that extra 1% efficiency, and I don't think that's fair. If the devs are going to continually balk at making the relic questline challenging, they should at least offer a customizable weapon alternative for those skilled enough to complete the hardest content in the game.

customizable raid weapon, hmm

step 1: get a unfinished raid weapon
step 2: bring it to Gerolt
step 3: gather dozen of rare stuff

should be ready 2 weeks before the next raid come ingame

[aleph_null]

1 page 4 manifesto to reallocate 10 stat points ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[technole]

Honestly the raid weapon customization point would likely be moot if the raid weapon was the only path to the highest ilvl each raid cycle. Midas was the only cycle where a raid weapon was absolutely the highest ilvl (i245 vs 240 anima/tome weapon).

I'm sure they will go back to that in 4.0 for Omega, and when the the x-pac is coming to a finish they'll just reward the relic users at the end to equal. Still giving raiders the usual 6-month advantage of the highest weapon ilvl. As I mentioned before I don't really care that much, but that seems fair enough considering all the Savage raid advantages already get.

Just curious...what % of players that have an a12s clear do you think actually purchased their 275 soul of creator savage wep?

Pretty good amount. A good majority of first A12S clears were in October-December timeframe so 1st/2nd purchases are common by now.

[Xlantaa]

Nope. SHOULD be the most powerful weapon. Most powerful even than the higest raid tier. Like the Celestial Weapons on FFX, or the any other definitive weapons in FF series. They represent that, and should stay in the game as is. The best weapon in the game must be accesible for all players. It is more a symbol than weapon.

[aleph_null]

If they won't allow customized stats for raid weapons at least make them decent. Like seriously drk weapon has sks parry and is overall worse than the upgraded shire weapon, there's no way that's intentional right, lol? I wouldn't mind anima being slightly stronger than the raid weapon like warrior's (just minor difference due to more secondary stats), considering they do consume a lot of time and are released months after the raid weapons.

[Zensho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEMSC3oLO8I

That guy was 2 Boxing and still lost lmao!

[ManuelBravo]

Raiders will always hate regardless because weapons become obsolete later on and can't change stats onit. Relics people will just complain, not all, about grinds...man I don't envy Yoshi on his job but he has done a great job so far. Common sense is dead in this world lets stop the bickering and agree we all have our perspectives. But Relics are consider Relics for a reason. Raid weps are pre set for a reason. How can anyone compare something that has steps to be alter/restore with some kind of history to a wep that is found in a dungeon. I give up /em rage quit thread