Thread: the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

Originally Posted by Zumi

For someone like me who already has had an alex 275 weapon for several months, this quest doesn't do anything for me besides a minion until they let us 275 it. I feel like if you already have a raid weapon that has higher ilvl they should let you make your relic go up to a higher ilvl. Like give branching options for finishing relics. Easier path and a raid path. Raid path leads to higher ilvls faster.

To me it seems like this is way more work then doing savage for an hour once a week.

Its supposed to be more work. That is the trade of for the content it requires being a lot easier.

People need to remember the purpose of the relic is to allow more casual players to work towards a good weapon by investing time over conquering difficulty. Even taking into the easier difficulty it is extremely unlikely even 30% of players will end up clearing Creator savage. Many will never step foot in it. Many don't want to. Playing the game is like watching TV. They do it to relax and socialise, not challenge themselves. The devs have to provide goals for those players too to work towards.

Originally Posted by Belhi

Its supposed to be more work. That is the trade of for the content it requires being a lot easier.

People need to remember the purpose of the relic is to allow more casual players to work towards a good weapon by investing time over conquering difficulty. Even taking into the easier difficulty it is extremely unlikely even 30% of players will end up clearing Creator savage. Many will never step foot in it. Many don't want to. Playing the game is like watching TV. They do it to relax and socialise, not challenge themselves. The devs have to provide goals for those players too to work towards.

I actually just finished it a few min ago. A1S farming. But the whole purpose of me doing it is because it will be BiS when it is able to go to 275.

Originally Posted by Fevelle

The people that complain about relic weapon and tomes weapons are the same that complain about low ilv people in DF. Figures.

Special snowflakes with over inflated egos that takes games way to seriously.. that feel the need to ridicule other people to make themselves feel better

I would have to completely disagree. This isn't the EverQuest era. Limiting gear like you propose creates a massive gap between the raiding community and the non-raiding community. In other games there is a definite content cap because content starts to be designed toward this higher tier. However, other games don't have a main story questline like this game does. SE can't allow this massive gap to happen because it would lock a large part of the community out of content. And being locked out of content would mean that people would find alternatives. Thus, the developers find a way for the rest of the community to catch up on ilevel so they can set requirements on new content that will be accessible on a much wider scale.

As a slight aside, as a community, we really have to stop this "Us vs. Them", Raiders vs. "Casuals" mentality. How about we try to come together and work together for once? I speak as someone who raids AND grinds out relic every patch. If anything, we ALL should be glad that there are multiple paths, and OPTIONS to get to end game gear levels.

Originally Posted by Aquaslash

As a slight aside, as a community, we really have to stop this "Us vs. Them", Raiders vs. "Casuals" mentality. How about we try to come together and work together for once? I speak as someone who raids AND grinds out relic every patch. If anything, we ALL should be glad that there are multiple paths, and OPTIONS to get to end game gear levels.

While that's be nice, you're asking to change human nature.

Originally Posted by Aquaslash

As a slight aside, as a community, we really have to stop this "Us vs. Them", Raiders vs. "Casuals" mentality. How about we try to come together and work together for once? I speak as someone who raids AND grinds out relic every patch. If anything, we ALL should be glad that there are multiple paths, and OPTIONS to get to end game gear levels.

I personally love it. But I've played games where it was a lot different. You either raided or you ran your head hard into a content and gear ceiling.

so A12S went down 3 days after patch launch, so people had 275 weapons 3 days after launch, 3 days grind

anima relic begun at i170 when? pretty sure it was more than 3 days ago, more than 3 weeks ago,

holy! 16/12/2015 patch 3.15, so people have been working on a relic for more than 1 whole year, and we've just reached 260-270 step.

A WHOLE YEAR, VERSUS 3 DAYS (if you're not gud, maybe a month? or etc)

outrageous and insulting is your OP, Mastering this game you say, hmm so you know everything? hmm? I think not.

to add, Square Enix is a business, businesses exist to make money.

If the game only catered to your tiny 1%, they would shut it down tomorrow...