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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurus View Post
    except we wont have to pay for skyrim leading up to its release....
    Lol, and there's no guesswork involved either.

    After all, who's to say FFXIV version 2.0 is even good?

    Who's to say the content between then and now is good?

    It might not be a wise investment, certainly given the insubstantial amount of information we have to go off. We're not exactly well-informed about what's coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    I'll just pretend you didn't embarrass yourself by pretending you play this game and that I don't and focus on your next point. It's true the game was never entirely uninstanced, but one of FFXIV's original philosophies was to keep players playing in the same world. I think that's what an MMO should be about. It should be a virtual world, not just an entrace lobby, nor a substrate to connect players. And whether or not FFXIV has a history of acheiving this concept, it was certainly a base philosophy. Yoshi is straying too far from this original philosophy.

    And if you hated this philosophy "then why did you play this game to begin with?"

    Oh that's right, you don't play it.
    Had they combined that philosophy with a world worth exploring in the first place, we probably wouldn't have have as many complaints as we did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    #3 How do you know what's Pleasing the Crowd or not, Your User name is Lol Lol and your still lvl 1 Character Your just like the Warcraft Cataclysm on my Server Trolling the Server in Ul'dah. The only people that don't seem to be pleased is 15% of the Forums on here. If you played the game, along with the other people that are having a good time ( or else why would they play, if they aren't having fun.).

    Thats all I have to say on this Matter.
    of course only 15% are not pleased on these forums, all the non pleased people have unsubbed and as such can not post. I can't believe people still try to use these forums as unbiased defenses... Lets try looking for the true majority of those with a box copy of FFXIV, cause i guarantee you they aren't on these forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurus View Post
    of course only 15% are not pleased on these forums, all the non pleased people have unsubbed and as such can not post. I can'y believe people still try to use these forums as unbiased defenses... Lets try looking for the true majority of those with a box copy of FFXIV, cause i guarantee you they aren't on these forums.
    I totally agree, the people that are actually playing the game are the Majority, people on here are the Minority Mixed in with some people in the game then give there feedback as such.

    I'm right with you Good sir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Okay, For one, Were are getting Thrusted into the New Servers come Feb 2012 I don't know where your getting this year from, but that's not whats in the PDF's ( Read the small print and you'll see it Clearly says Feb 2012, and that There new Servers are on the "FINAL" Stages.

    #2 Spending a Time making a Different game, well when you look at it at their angle, the ones that made the game ( namely Tanaka) Know that the game is Broken and they needed to find a way to Resolve it. Well, a Ship that's already beginning to sink will have a hard time staying afloat, Patching it up over time ( depending on how small or big the hole is) will determine if it will still sink or stay afloat. in SE's Situation It's a VERY big hole. So, how does SE tackle this Problem? You guessed it Completely Overhaul EVERYTHING ( basically make a new Ship w/o holes). So the time invested into this Ver 2.0 is actually a wiser Idea then trying to patch up a big hole that never seems to be covered up.

    #3 How do you know what's Pleasing the Crowd or not, Your User name is Lol Lol and your still lvl 1 Character Your just like the Warcraft Cataclysm on my Server Trolling the Server in Ul'dah. The only people that don't seem to be pleased is 15% of the Forums on here. If you played the game, along with the other people that are having a good time ( or else why would they play, if they aren't having fun.).

    Thats all I have to say on this Matter.
    TANAKA BURNT MY TOAST AND TOOK MY JERB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Had they combined that philosophy with a world worth exploring in the first place, we probably wouldn't have have as many complaints as we did.
    I agree.

    It's not the philosophy of FFXIV that was ever at fault though, merely it's implementation. And that's something Yoshi sometimes just doesn't get. He tries so hard to rebuild everything from the ground up when it would have been good enough just to fix what was there, especially as it concerns FFXIV's original philosophy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurus View Post
    of course only 15% are not pleased on these forums, all the non pleased people have unsubbed and as such can not post. I can't believe people still try to use these forums as unbiased defenses... Lets try looking for the true majority of those with a box copy of FFXIV, cause i guarantee you they aren't on these forums.
    Where have you been all my life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I totally agree, the people that are actually playing the game are the Majority, people on here are the Minority Mixed in with some people in the game then give there feedback as such.

    I'm right with you Good sir
    more people own the game than are playing...that was my point and i know you know that. And also i know many people who are only playing now so they can be ahead come 2.0 not out of enjoyment. I'm semi included in that, tho i must admit i'm enjoying myself to an extent. the biggest thing for me is them making us pay for something a year off. If this was wall street this would be an unsound investment based off past market information. I'm probably going to pay but i don't think its good business practice to make people pay for a game leading up to its re release. There's a reason the game had to be remade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Where have you been all my life?
    here...contemplating the most efficient way to bludgeon myself and/or others with my keyboard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Okay, For one, Were are getting Thrusted into the New Servers come Feb 2012 I don't know where your getting this year from, but that's not whats in the PDF's ( Read the small print and you'll see it Clearly says Feb 2012, and that There new Servers are on the "FINAL" Stages.

    #2 Spending a Time making a Different game, well when you look at it at their angle, the ones that made the game ( namely Tanaka) Know that the game is Broken and they needed to find a way to Resolve it. Well, a Ship that's already beginning to sink will have a hard time staying afloat, Patching it up over time ( depending on how small or big the hole is) will determine if it will still sink or stay afloat. in SE's Situation It's a VERY big hole. So, how does SE tackle this Problem? You guessed it Completely Overhaul EVERYTHING ( basically make a new Ship w/o holes). So the time invested into this Ver 2.0 is actually a wiser Idea then trying to patch up a big hole that never seems to be covered up.

    #3 How do you know what's Pleasing the Crowd or not, Your User name is Lol Lol and your still lvl 1 Character Your just like the Warcraft Cataclysm on my Server Trolling the Server in Ul'dah. The only people that don't seem to be pleased is 15% of the Forums on here. If you played the game, along with the other people that are having a good time ( or else why would they play, if they aren't having fun.).

    Thats all I have to say on this Matter.
    This is what you're talking about:

    [Regarding servers, a]t the current pace, we hope to have all basic system features completed by February 2012.

    After that, we will begin work on the worldless party matching system, as well as the porting of all current content data and player character data. We expect these tasks to be complete by the third quarter of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2013.
    So, new server systems and UI in 2013, with 2.0.
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