So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[frankenbeans]

Jobs that share monster skills: White Mage, Black Mage, Summoner (I mean Deathflare is Ahk Morn) Dancer could also be satisfied with glamour capabilities. Just be a monk, and type /dance. It would be exactly what those who have been insisting about it since the trailer saw.

As for Beast Master - At best, it would work exactly like summoner. I highly doubt we'll be getting either (DNC and BST) any time soon though. Might as well toss in the other off the wall theories: Chemist, Geomancer, Corsair (yes, people think that), Photographer - new crafting/gathering job... Do you honestly think any of those have a chance?

I don't believe Ahk Morn was ever a blue mage spell. Blue magic is a very specific set of abilities like Might Guard, Goblin Punch or Bomb toss. But I do love your other job ideas.

Those are all cool class ideas. I wouldn't say its impossible that they show up as they are Final Fantasy jobs. Thank you for sharing them and I'm glad you think those jobs are cool too!

[GMERC]

ROFL Thats dumb, yes I know how they would do it, and idc how hard you want to believe it, it wont be a legit blu. Hence the fact it would be a travesty and a train wreck. a BLU who doesnt have to learn from the monsters... it just knows the attacks and you have to use them all in a specific order... good lord that sounds sooooo bad... WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THAT?

You've worked yourself up to the point where you've lost sight of what Blue Mage is really about. And I'm just gonna spell it out: It's not about the chore of learning magic from enemies, it's about the actual use of enemy abilities. Please note that I did not specify Monster Abilities, I said Enemy Abilities. Blue Mages are perfectly capable of reverse-engineering abilities from other humans and machines alike. Terminus Est, anyone? How about Diffractive Laser?

And what difference does it make how you get the abilities? Once you learn it, you have it forever. You should be looking at the job for what it does at max level, not complaining about how it's not arbitrarily more or less true to how you feel it "should" learn its spells. What matters is which moves are selected and how they interact together as a cohesive moveset.

[Lewtskie]

Dots

Monster skills are abilities unique tied to a specific monster or family. Magic is not a monster skill, it's a skill utilized by intelligence based monsters and enemy NPCs. We know exactly what identifies as monster skills, stop trying to act ignorant to not prove a point.

The attempts at trying to count where jobs are and aren't referenced is going nowhere, as y'all can't decide what is and isn't, so just stop.

Clearly when we see the shirt we only see Spider-Man, and he gains his super powers through a spider. This is obvious. But we're not thinking about the man behind the mask! Peter Park, freelance photographer. Now we joke about Photography being a DoL/DoH, but obviously we were too far apart.

But this is most certainly an indication that XIV shall bring back the glorious art of Pankration! That's right, we are going to be getting a class that will utilize the art of ripping the souls out of monsters and using them as our own source of power. Now wait, you might be wondering how exactly? Clearly we look no further than the updated version of FFVI! A dear beloved character known as Relm (A character we have a minion of already, if you didn't know) uses the art of Pictomancy to copy enemy abilties by sketching them! In a more modernized form we shall have photographic powers to claima nd copy monster powers! (This will also be great for the FFXV tie in, a Prompto-themed item the ladies and lads will love.)

[Dualblade]

I can get behind a camera version of Pictomancy, but only if one of the abilities we get out of it are giant laser from the lens. Weaponized lens flares.

[Lewtskie]

I can get behind a camera version of Pictomancy, but only if one of the abilities we get out of it are giant laser from the lens. Weaponized lens flares.

That'll be our tier 3 LB, We line up for just the right shot, and then BAM! Death Star Laser in the enemy's face! Or we swipe it and then explosions like Valefor laser! That sounds better!

[Dorander]

Monster skills are abilities unique tied to a specific monster or family. Magic is not a monster skill, it's a skill utilized by intelligence based monsters and enemy NPCs. We know exactly what identifies as monster skills, stop trying to act ignorant to not prove a point.

Explain Ahk Morn then? Just magic and hand/wavey? Summoner's are taping into the residual aether of Bahamut when he manifested at Cartineau to recreate at least on a minor scale: his power.

How about Dragoon? Their entire job quest story explains that the Warrior of Light is also a true Azure Dragoon along with Estinien. Which means they are drawing power directly from the Azure eye, through their soul gem, manifesting supernatural abilities from the power of dragons.

So at least with two of the jobs, we are pulling power DIRECTLY from dragons or in the case of SMN a primal version of one. Sounds very Blue Mage to me.. but, I suppose you'll say those don't count.

[frankenbeans]

Explain Ahk Morn then? Just magic and hand/wavey? Summoner's are taping into the residual aether of Bahamut when he manifested at Cartineau to recreate at least on a minor scale: his power.

How about Dragoon? Their entire job quest story explains that the Warrior of Light is also a true Azure Dragoon along with Estinien. Which means they are drawing power directly from the Azure eye, through their soul gem, manifesting supernatural abilities from the power of dragons.

So at least with two of the jobs, we are pulling power DIRECTLY from dragons or in the case of SMN a primal version of one. Sounds very Blue Mage to me.. but, I suppose you'll say those don't count.

They don't count as Blue Magic refers to a specific set of abilities that have been fairly consistent through out the final fantasy series. It's not primal energy that summoners use or dragoon abilities. I believe you know this but are being intellectually dishonest by creating a false equivalency with fin fantasy's blue magic and just any old ability used by mobs or bosses.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Here's the problem tho, you reference Mighty Guard as a Blue Mage ability, but it is currently one of the Tank LB's. Its not used by any of the enemies in the game either. So we already have a blue mage ability. Wonder what other Blue Mage skills are already in use by other classes.

[Lewtskie]

but, I suppose you'll say those don't count.

jfc... Okay let's make a very clear understanding of what Blue Magic or similar arts entail. You are not just drawing power from an enemy. It goes deeper than that. Blue Magic,Copy Magic, Pictomancy is utilizing a very high level magic to systematically replicate an enemies move and reconstruct it to allow use by an individual who would not readily have the limbs, mechanisms, or body structure to perform such maneuvers. This is done through taking on the said moves, and why not all moves can be replicated. Your body remembers the move, the pain or function, and the magic draws from that. This is why in XI it was established how dangerous this art was. You turn yourself into a living weapon, every part of your body a point to channel the magic.

DRGs merely feed off the eye of a dragon for power which stimulates their bodies, giving them enhanced skills. Likewise does SMN use Ahk Morn specifically? NO. It uses a very weaker form constructed by their art. And that aside, you are channeling, much like DRG, to perform this feat. SAMN in essence is a channeler, even Death Flare uses the still lingering essence of Bahamut to perform it. You as yourself don't have the full power to perform it at will.

[Vexander]

Explain Ahk Morn then? Just magic and hand/wavey? Summoner's are taping into the residual aether of Bahamut when he manifested at Cartineau to recreate at least on a minor scale: his power.

How about Dragoon? Their entire job quest story explains that the Warrior of Light is also a true Azure Dragoon along with Estinien. Which means they are drawing power directly from the Azure eye, through their soul gem, manifesting supernatural abilities from the power of dragons.

So at least with two of the jobs, we are pulling power DIRECTLY from dragons or in the case of SMN a primal version of one. Sounds very Blue Mage to me.. but, I suppose you'll say those don't count.

Because those aren't Blue Mage situations in the slightest.

A Blue Mage learns the powers of their enemies, but uses their own power to recreate them. As you've pointed out, Dragoons/Summoners are using power -directly- from other sources to perform their arts. Maybe I'm wrong and Blue Mages keep eyes and ears of enemies and use them up to use skills in some kind of spell-reagent fashion. Somehow, I don't think they do. At least, I cannot see them doing so in FFXIV.