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    "Yeah I mean in HW only DRK had direct ties lore wise with Ishgard. Maybe Machinist too, but they seemed equally tied to the Empire."

    Didn't Ishgard already have their own brand of Astrologian? Part of the AST 30-50 quest was about trying to bring the Sharlayan branch of Astrology to the Ishgardian branch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenbeans View Post
    However why on earth would they put in the red mage and sam files now six months early when they know about data mining.
    In the case of Scholar that Iromi pointed out, it was to be a placeholder, and also to move in some files early to shrink the patch day load. Its common practice, SE has many times added clothes and minions and such in a patch or two before they are released. The reason directly for Scholar and possibly the new jobs now, is that 2.0 was a major update, I mean huge even by big 24 hour update standards. They have to get as much in as they can to avoid extra long downloads which if done by enough people at once can jam things up. If these files are real, then I expect the 4.0 patch will be a monster and they want to try and shrink the load where they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenbeans View Post
    Ishgard already had their own brand of Astrologian. Part of the AST 30-50 quest was about trying to bring the Sharlayan branch of Astrology to the Ishgardian branch.
    This is more of a localization thing, atleast in Japan the way its spelled or something is similar but ends up being two different things. It didn't become a thing until Astro was announced, though it isn't really much of an issue.

    Basically though Ishgardian Astros, if they DO fight, do not fight anything like Sharlayan/Player Astros.

    Also you can edit posts to bypass the 1000 char limit, and it doesn't count against your posting limit.

    As for adding things in now for Stormblood, it'll make downloading 4.0 easier when it actually comes out because there will be a little less to download by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikMynhier View Post
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    We understand placeholders. If this is the next job that means SE wanted us to find out before fan fest or they didn\\\\'t learn their lesson from the first time with SCH. They know if they put it in the game before fan fest someone would find it. These files could have been added in patch 3.55 or the next patch in March. They made this mistake once but twice is a little odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    This is more of a localization thing, atleast in Japan the way its spelled or something is similar but ends up being two different things. It didn't become a thing until Astro was announced, though it isn't really much of an issue.

    Basically though Ishgardian Astros, if they DO fight, do not fight anything like Sharlayan/Player Astros.

    Also you can edit posts to bypass the 1000 char limit, and it doesn't count against your posting limit.

    As for adding things in now for Stormblood, it'll make downloading 4.0 easier when it actually comes out because there will be a little less to download by then.
    I have no difficulty in believing that they would add stuff in patches over a period of time in order to alleviate the Stormblood download. However why would they include such a big spoiler as the number of new jobs and what that job is (there was only red and sam listed besides the current jobs, so no third job).

    So my question is why jump the gun and put those files so early on? Why not add those files in the patches after the German fan festival? We have another big patch coming up in march correct, so why not just add these spoiler files then and there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    We understand placeholders. If this is the next job that means SE wanted us to find out before fan fest or they didn\\\\'t learn their lesson from the first time with SCH. They know if they put it in the game before fan fest someone would find it. These files could have been added in patch 3.55 or the next patch in March. They made this mistake once but twice is a little odd.
    Then I would say they did not learn their lesson or YP thought if he asked nicely we wouldn't look, like when he asked us to be nice in Diadum or PVP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenbeans View Post
    I have no difficulty in believing that they would add stuff in patches over a period of time in order to alleviate the Stormblood download. However why would they include such a big spoiler as the number of new jobs and what that job is (there was only red and sam listed besides the current jobs, so no third job).

    So my question is why jump the gun and put those files so early on? Why not add those files in the patches after the German fan festival? We have another big patch coming up in march correct, so why not just add these spoiler files then and there?
    -shrugs- I know as much as you do, possibly less. Honestly given that the devs KNOW datamining is going to happen and given that speculation here has sometimes gotten very wild, a part of me believes it was added to try and calm things down early. Either that or for some reason they believed it wouldn't be found so quickly.
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    I'am waiting for Time Mage since it was really confirmed by Cyn in Hildibrand quest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frankenbeans View Post
    I have no difficulty in believing that they would add stuff in patches over a period of time in order to alleviate the Stormblood download. However why would they include such a big spoiler as the number of new jobs and what that job is (there was only red and sam listed besides the current jobs, so no third job).

    So my question is why jump the gun and put those files so early on? Why not add those files in the patches after the German fan festival? We have another big patch coming up in march correct, so why not just add these spoiler files then and there?
    Yeah I have no idea for this either...if they truly didn't learn from the SCH and SMN incident, then gg them lol unless they have another secret job/content surprise at Germany. If it is only SAM, and that was spoiled in the dats...then what can I say, it'll be a pretty boring event already knowing heh. This is SE we talking about tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    I'am waiting for Time Mage since it was really confirmed by Cyn in Hildibrand quest.
    We already have it. Astrologian is literally Time Mage.
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