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  1. #1
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    Lewtskie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Careful now, hope is the first step on the road disappointment after all.

    At this point it's becoming a pretty absurd amount of denial and resistance. There's a ton of evidence now, more so than pretty much ever before for any future job.
    If you're seeing all this evidence and not even being slightly hesitant about it than you sure you're not just seeing proof where you want to see it? The pro-SAMs have really taken to heart anything that could remotely be tied to SAMs introduction be clear-cut proof of its existence, none of them even slightly questioning it, and sound like a bunch of conspiracy nuts at this point. Like, the other job fans have been pretty outlandish as well, but the SAMs take it to a whole other aggressive level.

    You know what they say when something sounds too good to be true... and at this point I'm worried if y'all gonna be losing your damn minds if it isn't SAM and trying to rip apart Yoshi.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    You know what they say when something sounds too good to be true... and at this point I'm worried if y'all gonna be losing your damn minds if it isn't SAM and trying to rip apart Yoshi.
    Is SAM really "too good to be true" or so important that people might "lose their minds" over it ?
    It's...just another job, in the end. It's not like it will overpower every DPS while being more tanky than tanks and healing more than healers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Is SAM really "too good to be true" or so important that people might "lose their minds" over it ?
    It's...just another job, in the end. It's not like it will overpower every DPS while being more tanky than tanks and healing more than healers...
    It is, but it's one so heavily contested for even in the earliest days. Aesthetically it's one that draws enough people in, and whether DPS or Tank people are sure to play. It's not as though Yoshi hasn't wanted it introduced himself, he very much has, though whether it is now or later is something very much still in the air. But he obviously also knows that if he fucks it up, people WILL become increasingly agitated. Game devs have always struggled with players just as passionate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Game devs have always struggled with players just as passionate.
    Exactly why I think that the first idea of not using iconic jobs was good. If you name your jobs Maraudeur or Conjurer, you're not tied to previous incarnations of what WAR and WHM are.

    Just look at SMN...people bitch about it all the time even though the job itself is pretty powerful, just because "It's not a real summoner..."
    The thing is, Yoshi-P has said in the past that this is FFXIV, not an old FF, and that he's free to do whatever he wants with the jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    If you're seeing all this evidence and not even being slightly hesitant about it than you sure you're not just seeing proof where you want to see it?
    The latest bit of evidence is pretty much a final nail in the coffin. It doesn't get much closer to full on confirmation than data files validating it.

    The only connection that's any kind of "conspiracy theory" level is the Sam Raimi director connection, but it's also honestly a bit too weird to not be a potential hint. The rest of the evidence is absolutely sound however.

    We know straight up that Samurai was in contention for 3.0's Tank, but lost out (at the last minute too) to Dark Knight for it's thematic matching to 3.0's setting and the reluctance to release another eastern themed job so close to ninja. So we already know it was a job that was on the top of their list to add.

    Yoshida and team certainly cave to pressure from the players/fans when it comes to adding jobs considering so far every job except Astrologian has been ones widely requested and topping player polls from 1.0 (SMN, NIN, MCH, etc.)

    Then the job samurai was mentioned directly by name by Yoshida's self insert during the Rising event in 2015 as potentially a new job they were going to work on, in the very same statement he name dropped Red Mage.

    After that, we get an in-game lore confirmation that samurai specifically at least exist by name as a thing. Listed alongside shinobi (ninja) as something from Doma, which considering the vast majority of surviving Domans (or perhaps all of them) are now in Eorzea, it sets the perfect excuse for us to be able to learn said job, since those who would be able to teach it are now in Eorzea.

    Finally, we have the datamined files, which is not just some random file with the word "sam" in it, but specifically multiple files for cutscene placeholders for job story quests, alongside other job files named in exactly the same format including rdm.


    All these things combined with an odd but still valid connection to the t-shirt tease Yoshida wore, on top of his comments and deflecting when it comes to acknowledging Samurai questions, and actually shooting down other popular theories, it's pretty cut and dry at this point.


    You say SAM fans are on a whole other level when it comes to hints about their job coming to the game, but clearly you haven't been paying attention to these threads because people saying "They said the color blue! BLUE MAGE CONFIRMED" is actually straight up the biggest reach. Or even the dancer camp, of which there is virtually zero hard evidence of Dancer even being considered for addition ever in this game. The devs have not once even acknowledged Dancer as a potential job.
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    Last edited by Shippuu; 01-19-2017 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    The latest bit of evidence is pretty much a final nail in the coffin. It doesn't get much closer to full on confirmation than data files validating it.


    Finally, we have the datamined files, which is not just some random file with the word "sam" in it, but specifically multiple files for cutscene placeholders for job story quests, alongside other job files named in exactly the same format including rdm.


    You say SAM fans are on a whole other level when it comes to hints about their job coming to the game, but clearly you haven't been paying attention to these threads because people saying "They said the color blue! BLUE MAGE CONFIRMED" is actually straight up the biggest reach. Or even the dancer camp, of which there is virtually zero hard evidence of Dancer even being considered for addition ever in this game. The devs have not once even acknowledged Dancer as a potential job.
    AMEN ^100% THIS!
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