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  1. #671
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    Yoshida said we get multiple jobs, right? So it is impossible that we get a DoL or a DoH. As far as I know all of those are considered classes. Still, that would be a nice twist. Yoshie-P shut down Blue Mage and Puppet Master earlier, Dancer requires too many jumps in logic and he is very actively denying Samurai. This limits our choices somewhat.
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  2. #672
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Where you are quite wrong is that there are things we "DO" know, and it seems that quite a few people have absolutely no idea what deductive reasoning skills are. You cannot twist facts to support a narrative that isn't there. Speculation isn't a blanket statement for: "I want this! So be damned the logic and facts!"
    This thread was still about fun speculation like making comments how spider man once danced and thus its a dancer and so on. It was nothing that serious, yet somehow because someone mentioned dancer it kinda took a turn for the worst.

    1: If I remember it correctly this was more along the line of: It was way to stressful to create another new job while we are in a expansion so they wont release a new job like that again. Yoshida also said when showing the shadows of a male and female that this wont mean that we only get two jobs. The deleted tweet said something else but it could have been simply a wrong information thus deleted. We will only know for sure in February and until then it will hurt nobody to still speculate about what ifs.

    2: And its also not completely right with Blue Mage. Not only that but in an old interview (like some have pointed out) he talked about Blue Mage being more of a solo job. So if we take old informations for granted than it couldnt be a Blue Mage either. Maybe they felt a little in the mood for some trolling and its something completely different and has nothing to do with the shirt. Who knows?

    3. If this was the sixth expansion and we would never have a hint of new job in a trailer I maybe could agree with you on that but this is the teaser for a second expansion. Who can say that they will always follow it that way? I mean we have one main game and one expansion. We can not go there and just say: It will be always that way. (And about material arts: There were enough people pointing out that they do something similar as a dancer in real life.)

    And its not our fault and responsibility if someone can not see the difference between a fun speculation and something as confirmed. They would have raged anyway, even if people did not discuss the possibilities because those normally don't need reasons to rage. Why put others down for the simple "it could happen"? Maybe everyone will surprise us and there wont be threads? Maybe there will be a massive amount of why not Samurai/Blue Mage/Beastmaster/... if its not happing?

    Either way I dont care what we get, I am just here for some funny speculations.

    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    It's not so much changing peoples' minds, but narrowing down the speculation. For instance, Yoshida shot down puppetmaster in an interview several months ago. He also kind of shot down the wild speculation of Sam Raimi, by saying Spider-man had more than one director. Then went on to say it related more to Spider-man's story. Well... his story happens to be closer to Blue Mage than Dancer. Peter Parker wasn't an aspiring Michael Flatley. He got bit by a spider and gained its powers. This thread is specifically asking what the Spider-man shirt means. Not what jobs do you think we'll get?

    You do realize that even the people saying "not gonna happen" are also speculating? They're merely giving an opposing view as to what they see and hear. They know as much (or as little) as anyone else here; as it pertains to what's coming next.
    The problem is that we wont really have any of the mentioned jobs if we take anything Yoshida says as truth. Like some already said he also kinda shot down Blue because its more a solo job and would not function in its common way in this game, he made the comment about Sam Raimi but its not like he can truly answer the question. He can truly be a master troll if he wants to.

    Well speculation is for me more along the way of "might be". If someone says that something is not going to happen even though we still dont know all new jobs, than its not really speculation. IMO its more about trying to say that their word is a fact. And if they know the same as everyone else than why do they try to stop the discussion? Thats what made me a little sad. Not the "I have a different opinion because" but trying to put other opinions down. They could just simple not answer back and I am quite sure the discussion about dancer would have been done in two, three pages.


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    Well since Spiderman got bitten by a spider thus animal I want it to be a beast master. I love the classes with beasts so I would maybe change from summoner to it. But we will also get dancer! Since the WoL is the master dancer, every class will get a special new move set that involves dancing. For tanks its make the enemy angry as hell. Maybe some nice twerking? (yes this is not meant to be serious but would be funny as hell imo)
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  3. #673
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Yoshie-P shut down Blue Mage and Puppet Master earlier
    I think I've seen some negative thoughts from Yoshi regarding Blue Mage. Never seen anything for Puppetmaster from Yoshi. Can anyone provide a link or at least mention what he said?
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  4. #674
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBelmont View Post
    Never seen anything for Puppetmaster from Yoshi. Can anyone provide a link or at least mention what he said?
    I'm also among those who were told that Puppet Master is a no, so i don't have a link. But it has been regarded as a fact even before the official Stormblood reveal.
    You know I'm really curious about this spiderman riddle now. Okay, that's not true. I've been curious ever since the Tokyo fan fest. But the more I think about it, the less sense it makes. Ble Mage works well but Yoshie-P has been against Blue Mage for a long long time now. He might change his stance, but that's not that likely. Samurai requires a logic jump, and Dancer requires a logic airplane flight. Since Spider Man is "Animal Person" Beastmaster has a high chance, but honestly it doesn't sound that interesting. Of course I will try it out for the story, but it doesn't sound like job I will care about that much.
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  5. #675
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    Maybe it's Hunter because he can trap his ennemies with his web.
    Somehow, he is like a predator.
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  6. #676
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    You know I'm really curious about this spiderman riddle
    If we consider the new job being a classic and also consider every hint, it only leaves Samurai. Because BLU and PUP have been dismissed and there is no other job to relate to the hint.

    There are also some possibilities I would not like. For example, something completely new that has no nostalgic value. Another one I'd dislike would be Dancer merged with Puppetmaster to make it indeed look like Spiderman or something.

    It could also be Dancer itself featuring a needle+thread as a weapon.
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    What about a discple of hand job...that take picture? We all know in the beginning peter parker was selling spiderman picture to get some extra $, and with the new addition of a painter, who knows...could be some custom picture frame that require that and you take picture of people/group of people and frame it for housing decoration or murals.

    I know im stretching it by a lot, but i just had to say it (sorry if it has been said in the other 67 pages, i didn't read those).
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  8. #678
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
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    If you truly want to bury your head in the sand, I can't stop you. Especially when there is plenty of factual information out there if you'd just look it up or pay attention to live letters (the amount of jobs released going forward statement was said right after Heavensward came out). So, please continue ignoring facts for the sake of your 'desires." I'll leave you to it.
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    I haven't read through the entire thread, but has anyone pointed out the japanese samurai version of spiderman?



    http://www.bandaionline.com/meisho-m...action-figure/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molic View Post
    Picture of Spidaru-man in samurai armour
    Yep, everyone has. It think someone dug that up within minutes of YoshiP coming out in that shirt...

    The internet scares me.
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