So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Cynfael]

We will never have gender locked jobs for the same reason we have female Roes & male Miqotes.

Because burly women and lithe-bodied men aren't a thing?

[RaijinSupreme]

Because burly women and lithe-bodied men aren't a thing?

what? they are a thing, that's why we have that archetype available in the game.

[Cynfael]

what? they are a thing, that's why we have that archetype available in the game.

I was more wondering where you were trying to go with that comment; it read to me more as if female Roes and male Miqo'te were being called out as concessions to political correctness.

[RaijinSupreme]

I was more wondering where you were trying to go with that comment; it read to me more as if female Roes and male Miqo'te were being called out as concessions to political correctness.

Then you misunderstood.

In FFXI, where our current races originated from, The burly race (Galka) was an all male race, while the cat people (Mithra) was an all female race.

When they were brought here, the females were added to the burly one, and males were added to the cat people. They didn't want to limit player choice when creating a character, and the gender-locking race thing is an outdated and tired concept anyway.

But that's the same reason why there won't be gender-locking jobs. It limits player choice with an outdated concept.

That's what I meant by "We will never have gender locked jobs for the same reason we have female Roes & male Miqotes."

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Then you misunderstood.

In FFXI, where our current races originated from, The burly race (Galka) was an all male race, while the cat people (Mithra) was an all female race.

When they were brought here, the females were added to the burly one, and males were added to the cat people. They didn't want to limit player choice when creating a character, and the gender-locking race thing is an outdated and tired concept anyway.

But that's the same reason why there won't be gender-locking jobs. It limits player choice with an outdated concept.

That's what I meant by "We will never have gender locked jobs for the same reason we have female Roes & male Miqotes."

Not 100% true, they added the male and female for roe/miqo for 2.0, in 1.0 it was the same as XI

[RaijinSupreme]

Not 100% true, they added the male and female for roe/miqo for 2.0, in 1.0 it was the same as XI

Because 1.0 was developed by the same producer, director and other main staffers of ffxi, who probably thought the outdated concept was a good idea, like the other outdated concepts they implemented in the game.

So I guess I have to be politically correct and point out the obvious.

Yoshi-P didn't want to limit player choice when he rebooted the game, the game we're playing now.

[Cynfael]

Then you misunderstood.

In FFXI, where our current races originated from, The burly race (Galka) was an all male race, while the cat people (Mithra) was an all female race.

When they were brought here, the females were added to the burly one, and males were added to the cat people. They didn't want to limit player choice when creating a character, and the gender-locking race thing is an outdated and tired concept anyway.

But that's the same reason why there won't be gender-locking jobs. It limits player choice with an outdated concept.

That's what I meant by "We will never have gender locked jobs for the same reason we have female Roes & male Miqotes."

I see. Thanks for the background info; I didn't play FFXI, so I was missing that piece of the story. I'm sorry for assuming that you were going to be yet another person making an unsolicited snarky comment about character models.