It's also been stated that you can vote-kick people for differences in playstyles:
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It's also been stated that you can vote-kick people for differences in playstyles:
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Last edited by Mimilu; 01-13-2017 at 09:23 AM.
Most people don't want dungeons taking forty minutes, especially when they can be finished in less then ten.so what if they are 40 minutes plus?
you wouldn't be carrying anyone because they would be meeting reqs, see this is exactly what i was saying your standards is not the games standards. and to try to prove a point you talk about the most extreme? its not even like i said hey players can afk and auto attack to death i simply said a player doesn't have to do optimal rotations/gamestyles just do whats required.
also *forcing my subpar playstyle on you* what?! this is such a grey zone *you took a aoe get out scrub* *you didnt pull as much dps as a top tier raid dps scrub* man these people make me so mad!!!
see how extremes look so silly?
And yes, actually, it would. To cite my own example. I ran Hullbreaker where the healer literally jumped around the map because the tank rotated their cooldowns effectively and his HP never dropped below 30k. The healer was essentially worthless-- to the point we could have completed the dungeon with a Summoner or Black Mage using Physic. In what capacity is that not a carry? The requirements are irrelevant as that only factors your allowance into the dungeon, not your contribution to its completion. That's the equivalent of saying a ilvl 255 Monk doing 1,000 DPS in A12 Savage isn't be carried when the other DPS are pulling 2,000+ because "he met the ilvl."
How are those extremes? A healer refusing to DPS is playing subpar. Insisting they are allowed to omit a third of their abilities because "it's my playstyle" is no different than a Black Mage roleplaying as an Ice Mage. Both are willfully gimping themselves and expecting the party their assigned with to just happily go along with it. In fact, if we glance back to OP, she admitted its her choice to not DPS. Therefore, she is telling me "I won't contribute even half of what you will because I'm choosing not to." That is her forcing her playstyle onto me since my preference to have a fast and smooth run is no longer possible. If three other people want a faster run, why should you get to dedicate otherwise? Once again, you also have the option to run with friends, but I am not going to let you idle for 80% of a dungeon because you don't feel like doing more than occasionally casting Cure.
Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 01-13-2017 at 10:18 AM.
Exactly! No questions asked, no calling people out, no essays. Its super fun in 24 man to initiate abandon then is passes hahaha
Tho really if you peeps want people who meet your criteria, party finder is the way to go.
Example
Looking for competent Male Roe's endowed with big DPS, and Nice skimpy Glamour for A11s.
Last edited by Joeking; 01-13-2017 at 09:31 AM.
what? since they aren't playing the way you want you will stop that? but its wrong to stop you from playing how you want?! what?
also what?! see more extremes when does a easy dungeon doable in i200 gear or less = a current end game raid?!
just because one person can pull 2k dps and another person only pulls 1k doesn't = carrying simply because you believe making the run faster is important.
also i am not talking about ilvl i am talking about actual requirements.
if a boss fight requires a average of a total of 3k dps to beat and it equals out to be 1k from tank 1k from one dps and 1k more from another doesn't mean anyone is getting carried 0 from healer noone is carried. (but that is one dam good tank AMIRITE!)
Last edited by Musashidon; 01-13-2017 at 09:33 AM.
Lazy people gonna lazy. Then make excuses for other lazy people.
Can you pls stop liking, what I don't like? Thank You.
You assume these people have friends.
so it's ok to tell people to get gud or go away but not ok to tell people who only want to play with good people to play with other good people?
one side is willing to play with the other and the other isn't but the one that will is in the wrong? it's not even like the bad players are telling good players to play good if its a big deal why not take it slow and do little like they do?
You like to cut off the following part of things it seems. She said if 3/4 of the dungeon prefers fast, then they shouldn't have to put up with the 4th jumping around. If 3/4 want to muck about and take their time, I'm sure she'll willingly drop from the party.what? since they aren't playing the way you want you will stop that? but its wrong to stop you from playing how you want?! what?
also what?! see more extremes when does a easy dungeon doable in i200 gear or less = a current end game raid?!
just because one person can pull 2k dps and another person only pulls 1k doesn't = carrying simply because you believe making the run faster is important.
The content she described was an example, the same rules apply to current EG raids, dungeons and the like. If you can jump, emote, run around, do nothing at all for at least the time it takes to switch to Cleric, cast a few offensive spells and switch back from Cleric before a heal is needed, then you are being lazy for not doing so, as you're just letting others do work while you idle in the back.
Also doing 1k dmg while others are doing 2k+ is a carry as the 1ker obviously isn't pulling their weight (as she mentioned, would have decent ilevel for content). That means they're being lazy while the others are working their butts off.
Just face the facts. If people don't like your playstyle, they can get rid if you if they deem you to be a burden on progression. Likewise, if people play in your playstyle and there is someone giving the rest of the party a hard time about it, they can be kicked out as well.
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