Stupid reason to report someone

[Musashidon]

Also doing 1k dmg while others are doing 2k+ is a carry as the 1ker obviously isn't pulling their weight (as she mentioned, would have decent ilevel for content). That means they're being lazy while the others are working their butts off.

a carry implies they aren't doing their job in the duty as long as they are at or above they are. since healers are not considered at all no dps is required. afterwards it's just opinions.

dps wise if all a dps is needed in a dungeon is 1k dps and they do that they are carrying their weight even if someone else is pulling 2k.

being lazy in your opinion doesn't mean someone isn't doing their job.

Because the side that isn't playing effectively is benefiting from it while the side that has to cover from them isn't.

just because you do more doesn't mean you are they aren't pulling their wait. wanting a faster run doesn't = the standard.

When did I ever say that?
I merely stated that IF you were worried about being judged, you should play with people who won't judge you, just like how you stated that IF we were worried about getting in a party with a playstyle we don't agree with, we should go with people with similar playstyles.

actually people who don't play well enough to someones extreme standards they get kicked if someone who plays well doesn't get kicked by a group who doesn't.

that is why i say play with your friends one side hurts the other while the other doesn't.

Oh, if you want insults I can give you those. However, Bourne_Endeavor spelled it out quite plainly and so has everyone else. You are WASTING other people's time by refusing to use nearly a 1/3 of your skill set because "I don't wanna." There is never SOOOOO much incoming damage to the tank or the entire party that you have to hover over their heal bars. That's the way the game is coded. The game itself tells you to do damage and that it's ok to do damage CONSTANTLY as a healer. So, you can't even claim that it doesn't because people have been linking where it does left and right too. At this point it's just willful ignorance on your part.

*willful ignorance* you mean like the fact that everyone here denies the fact that all dungeons are made with 0 healer damage in mind? its ok to ignore that and not listen to it because the game also says you can dps if you want!

he said you don't have to dps as a healer! he must be evil noone should have choices! you have to it's not an option!!!

[Mimilu]

so it's ok to tell people to get gud or go away but not ok to tell people who only want to play with good people to play with other good people?

When did I ever say that?
I merely stated that IF you were worried about being judged, you should play with people who won't judge you, just like how you stated that IF we were worried about getting in a party with a playstyle we don't agree with, we should go with people with similar playstyles.

one side is willing to play with the other and the other isn't but the one that will is in the wrong?

Because the side that isn't playing effectively is benefiting from it while the side that has to cover from them isn't.

You assume these people have friends.

Party finder then
"LF: Roe n Highlander Bara Daddies to carry this baby boy through Library (Hard)"

[Dorander]

someone doesn't agree with me so i will simply say they are blindly against me because i have to be right!

it would be nice to see a actual discussion instead of insults and extremes thrown around.

Oh, if you want insults I can give you those. However, Bourne_Endeavor spelled it out quite plainly and so has everyone else. You are WASTING other people's time by refusing to use nearly a 1/3 of your skill set because "I don't wanna." There is never SOOOOO much incoming damage to the tank or the entire party that you have to hover over their heal bars. That's the way the game is coded. The game itself tells you to do damage and that it's ok to do damage CONSTANTLY as a healer. So, you can't even claim that it doesn't because people have been linking where it does left and right too. At this point it's just willful ignorance on your part.

[Joeking]

Party finder then
"LF: Roe n Highlander Bara Daddies to carry this baby boy through Library (Hard)"

Highlander what the heck. That's so gross.. *initiates vote kick*

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Most people don't want dungeons taking forty minutes, especially when they can be finished in less than ten.

And yes, actually, it would. To cite my own example. I ran Hullbreaker where the healer literally jumped around the map because the tank rotated their cooldowns effectively and his HP never dropped below 30k. The healer was essentially worthless-- to the point we could have completed the dungeon with a Summoner or Black Mage using Physic. In what capacity is that not a carry? The requirements are irrelevant as that only factors your allowance into the dungeon, not their contribution to its completion. That's the equivalent of saying a ilvl 255 Monk doing 1,000 DPS in A12 Savage isn't be carried when the other DPS are pulling 2,000+ because "he met the ilvl."

How are those extremes? A healer refusing to DPS is playing subpar. Insisting they are allowed to omit a third of their abilities because "it's my playstyle" is no different than a Black Mage roleplaying as an Ice Mage. Both are willfully gimping themselves and expecting the party their assigned with to just happily go along with it. In fact, if we glance back to OP, she admitted its her choice to not DPS. Therefore, she is telling me "I won't contribute even half of what you will because I'm choosing not to." That is her forcing her playstyle onto me since my preference to have a fast and smooth run is no longer possible. If three other people want a faster run, why should you get to dedicate otherwise? Once again, you also have the option to run with friends, but I am not going to let you idle for 80% of a dungeon because you don't feel like doing more than occasionally casting Cure.

This is entirely SE's fault. Not the fault of the player. If instances are so poorly tuned that a specific role required for that instance isn't even needed to complete it than SE needs to go back to the drawing board and tighten things up...a lot.

And a healer not dpsing is not forcing their slow playstyle on you. Not in a Duty Finder group with random players. The duty finder is there to accommodate those without friends to run with and those who fall under the lowest common denominator category of players. It's there for the sake of convenience. You're runs via Duty Finder may not be the fastest or best ever. Heck, they may be downright terrible in your opinion. But at least you got into your dungeon and had a shot to complete it. And if you are using the Duty Finder in the first place that's a shot you otherwise would not have had.

[Mimilu]

just because you do more doesn't mean you are they aren't pulling their wait. wanting a faster run doesn't = the standard.

Still doesn't mean they aren't benefiting from others' hard work and having to cover for them...

actually people who don't play well enough to someones extreme standards they get kicked if someone who plays well doesn't get kicked by a group who doesn't.
that is why i say play with your friends one side hurts the other while the other doesn't.

Well duh. What kind of person would kick someone doing more work then they are out of a group? Where's the gain in shooting themselves in the foot?
This statement also doesn't disprove my suggesting they you lot should just go with friends/look for a group in PF.
And I agree, your side does hurt the other. :-D

Highlander what the heck. That's so gross.. *initiates vote kick*

Highlanders do have the one good face going for them... >w>

[Musashidon]

This statement also doesn't disprove my suggesting they you lot should just go with friends/look for a group in PF.

it does when one side says change your ways or stop playing and the other side lets them play as they like.

[Joeking]

it does when one side says change your ways or stop playing and the other side lets them play as they like.

Such is life.

[Mimilu]

it does when one side says change your ways or stop playing and the other side lets them play as they like.

No it doesn't because, hopefully, a friend wouldn't tell you to change your ways or stop playing (unless you're doing that badly or are doing something unhealthy).
As for getting people from the PF, well, they agreed to come with you, so they can't really complain because they chose to come... Plus, you can leave a dungeon if it was in a pre-made group without getting a penalty, so they don't have too much to worry about.

[Musashidon]

No it doesn't because, hopefully, a friend wouldn't tell you to change your ways or stop playing (unless you're doing that badly or are doing something unhealthy).
As for getting people from the PF, well, they agreed to come with you, so they can't really complain because they chose to come...

but you can complain in DF because its for the best only? seriously? you are shunning a large group of people because they won't dps on a healer? because they dont do a perfect rotation in every easy dungeon they do? how can you even say that is ok?