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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Talking about an argument that needs to stand on better legs; assuming that an NPC is a particular job (this alone should be a red flag) because "he rages out". Not even gonna try and explain how magnificent of a roller coaster this idea is.

    And another concept that seems to fly over your head as well as many others is that gameplay isn't so simple as you want to put it. Gameplay encompasses all aspects of a game that create an experience as a whole. .
    I had retired from this thread but, but I cant believe its still going strong, that being said I feel even more strongly about mixing the gear than before simply based on poor game design. How can the game want to make specific gear but then on the other hand force u pretty much to share the highest optimal gear that you have per job. You cant be this lazy in my opinion if you want the job specific gear to mean something then you need to at least let us glamour it per job.

    So basically if your a tank with how the system is set up now you can only have one job specific look you cant for instance have on all shire gear and then give your warrior a full set, and then try to give your pali a job specific set to. So basically it just leaves this gear as another piece of glamour that holds no significance because the game doesn't even allow you to glamour it per job unless you wear all different sets of gear to do so. So if the game is gona have a system that bad, then its no need to lock the gear behind a wall that they are basically saying doesn't even matter, because of their very on game design they make it to where you cant even wear full on job specific gear per job anyway.
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    Curious Gorge didn't attack everyone in sight. Neither do you when you give into your inner beast.
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    Some restrictions could be lifted, likeletting caster/healer share and all melee share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    Curious Gorge didn't attack everyone in sight. Neither do you when you give into your inner beast.
    But Curious gorge did attempt to attack. Thats what the lvl 50 quest is all about, taming the beast. Broken Mountain had also given in to the inner beast, thats why he was the villain of the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    But Curious gorge did attempt to attack. Thats what the lvl 50 quest is all about, taming the beast. Broken Mountain had also given in to the inner beast, thats why he was the villain of the line.
    The level 50 quest is not the only quest wherein Curious Gorge gives into his inner beast. He does it on the beach versus crabs to save you and ..................................... that one woman. He does it again in tideport or whatever and scares the little girl. The town elder informs you he'll have a sit down with her parents to make sure they understand Curious Gorge would never hurt anyone.

    2/3 times is pretty good. Either way, in Raubahn's movie thing when he rages out Ilberd calls him some berserker title, like the wild bull or whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    The level 50 quest is not the only quest wherein Curious Gorge gives into his inner beast. He does it on the beach versus crabs to save you and ..................................... that one woman. He does it again in tideport or whatever and scares the little girl. The town elder informs you he'll have a sit down with her parents to make sure they understand Curious Gorge would never hurt anyone.

    2/3 times is pretty good. Either way, in Raubahn's movie thing when he rages out Ilberd calls him some berserker title, like the wild bull or whatever.
    No berserker title was given. Just a comparison twixt a bull without balls and raubahn. the red hue that was, was just there to indicate his anger. Not that he had been taught be an Abalathian warrior.¨

    A Warrior (job) is a specific branch of abalathian hellsguard warteaching.
    No way around this.
    its the lore.
    And Raubahn is not versed in the abalathian hellsguard warteachings- as they require an axe. he uses twin swords and a shield.
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    You coincidentally always leave off half of what happens when you try to rebuff me. "Curious Gorge did attack everyone." "Raubahn was never called a berserker title. Just called the ball less bull."

    Nope. Wrong. Verbatim: "She took the mad bull and cut off his balls."

    His class is about raging out. The only class that rages out is warrior. He's a warrior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
    You coincidentally always leave off half of what happens when you try to rebuff me. "Curious Gorge did attack everyone." "Raubahn was never called a berserker title. Just called the ball less bull."

    Nope. Wrong. Verbatim: "She took the mad bull and cut off his balls."

    His class is about raging out. The only class that rages out is warrior. He's a warrior.
    Yea, his title in the arena was the "Mad bull of ala mhigo"
    Thats where the bull comes from. And why the bull imagery is present in the immortal flame gear.

    If a paladin got mad would he be a warrior then? is that the logic youre using?


    A warrior calls upon the aether in themselves, getting drunk on it, mad. It is called the inner beast becuase the hellsguards were primitive and didnt excactly know that its just aether. Same way a monks chakras are just aether as explained by erik, while the monks thought they were deeply spiritual they just harnessed aether in their fists. Just like an Abalathian warriro uses aether in their axe-swings.

    Every single magical thing in eorzea is caused by aether.

    Raubahn used no aether in the hallroom. he just go fed up with the bullshit and striked at the potato.
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    Being angry doesn't make you a warrior. Gaining power from being angry makes you a warrior. He kicked a pillar, broke it, and sent it flying at his friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domeric View Post
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    Raubahn is the Bull of Ala Mhigo. It is not an inner beast reference at all. It is title gained from his victories in the Coliseum. That is why it is referenced by Ilberd.

    Raubahn is consumed over the "loss of the Sultana" and is goaded the entire time until his breaking point. He even lost his arm for it, an attack he would easily block in his normal state. Ilberd even mocks him for it.

    Any character in this game can be consumed by Rage over tragic loss or betrayal. We have seen it with other NPCs. Does not make them Warriors.

    This is why in the case of special NPCs, with unique abilities, ppl refrain from labeling them to a specific job. Tizona isn't a normal sword either, it is cursed and has special powers only unique to the blade.
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