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  1. #531
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
    I see a lot of people speculating based on the woman in the trailer, discussing if she is a DNC or a MNK. That woman obvipusly isn't Uda, she doesn't have the tattoos in her neck, which wasn't forgotten by SE because in ARR opening you see her tattoo.

    Sooooo that's certain to be here sister. Being her sister, an Ala Mhigan and being parte of the resistance, she probably was trained with martial arts like Yda, but why couldn't she develop a love and interest in Dancing, mixing martial arts (offensive stance) with dancing moves/posture (buff/debuff/healing stance)?

    So I'm hoping, and want só bad, SE is bringing DNC. Come to papa!
    I hope so. If they don't they'll miss the perfect chance to introduce DNC with a really cool backstory ; ; and yeah, the lack of tattoo speaks for itself really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
    So I'm hoping, and want só bad, SE is bringing DNC. Come to papa!
    Sorry to disappoint, watch the trailer carefully and compare her movements to MNK attacks, there are literally MNK animations woven into her "dance". (No DNC isnt branching from PGL).
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  3. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blazinhart View Post
    I see a lot of people speculating based on the woman in the trailer, discussing if she is a DNC or a MNK. That woman obvipusly isn't Uda, she doesn't have the tattoos in her neck, which wasn't forgotten by SE because in ARR opening you see her tattoo.

    Sooooo that's certain to be here sister. Being her sister, an Ala Mhigan and being parte of the resistance, she probably was trained with martial arts like Yda, but why couldn't she develop a love and interest in Dancing, mixing martial arts (offensive stance) with dancing moves/posture (buff/debuff/healing stance)?

    So I'm hoping, and want só bad, SE is bringing DNC. Come to papa!
    While I'm fine with it being her sister, it also isn't "obviously" her either because of the lack of neck tattoo's. Including them in the trailer would have been a massive give away to 3.5 and/or 4.0. Even the 3.5 art is oddly missing the neck tattoo's of Yda. Also in the Heavensward teaser trailer every dragon was Hreasvalger. There's not certain until 3.5 or 3.55 which Yoshi said we'll be meeting that character.

    Also MNK is heavily based on the Chinese systems of Martial Arts which are known for fluid and dance-like movements. All I see honestly is a very performance based opening to a Baguazhang form, not actual dancing. I'm all for dancer but if they do it I'd personally like it to be a bit more "less Monk" than what the woman was doing.
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    Just want to point out that people shouldn't be looking at the girl in the cinematic and saying she is either 100% a Monk or 100% a Dancer. First of all, it's a cinematic that is artistically stylized, but it is also important to remember that certain NPC do not follow the same job restrictions that we do. We have seen examples of characters that use abilities beyond what their job would normally allow. Not everything is black and white.

    My honest opinion of the lady in red is that she does portray herself as a Monk, but she might be mixing in some Dancer moves. Alternatively, the opposite could be said, but just based on the what is shown in the footage I would say she is mostly in line with Monk.

    Also let us not forget that speculation on Dancer as a possible job addition for Stormblood has more behind it than a cinematic video. It has been previously stated that the Moonfire Faire provided hints towards the upcoming jobs. For that reason, I still believe we are getting three with either all three upfront or with one already in the pipeline to be added in a patch update. But in any case, there is still the matter of the yellow ranger pose being identical to one of the poses used by Dancer in FFXI. I do not believe that is a coincidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhaja View Post
    Also MNK is heavily based on the Chinese systems of Martial Arts which are known for fluid and dance-like movements. All I see honestly is a very performance based opening to a Baguazhang form, not actual dancing. I'm all for dancer but if they do it I'd personally like it to be a bit more "less Monk" than what the woman was doing.
    Exactly. I've said the same thing in a previous thread a while back when the Stormblood trailer was first released. And it still baffles me as to how people can assume that a CGI cutscene of a Monk NPC displaying its elegant martial arts is confused as a Dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    Exactly. I've said the same thing in a previous thread a while back when the Stormblood trailer was first released. And it still baffles me as to how people can assume that a CGI cutscene of a Monk NPC displaying its elegant martial arts is confused as a Dancer.
    I take it you have never been around different types of dancers before? I do this for a living for TV and movies, I have been trained in many different ways to dance and dancing how she does in the opening is very common. I've been in music videos and done many things where they ask me to dance and fight like that. At many calls we are expected to perform aerials like that mixed in with fighting techniques. I do not call myself a monk by any means lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I take it you have never been around different types of dancers before? I do this for a living for TV and movies, I have been trained in many different ways to dance and dancing how she does in the opening is very common. I've been in music videos and done many things where they ask me to dance and fight like that. At many calls we are expected to perform aerials like that mixed in with fighting techniques. I do not call myself a monk by any means lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I take it you have never been around different types of dancers before? I do this for a living for TV and movies, I have been trained in many different ways to dance and dancing how she does in the opening is very common. I've been in music videos and done many things where they ask me to dance and fight like that.
    No, I have not personally been around different types of dancers before. I'm also sure you are a very talented dancer. But, I don't see how any of those are relevant. Do you mean to say that only dancers can tell when someone is dancing? Because, I can use my perception and observation to interpret when I see something that could be indicated as a dance. Can I classify and define what each and every jig, salsa, mamba, rumba, and pow wow is? No, probably not. But if I were to see someone doing anything similar to those, my brain would click and say, (aha) they are dancing. I did not get that from the Stormblood trialer.
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    Lufir - that's fine, I was just explaining my point of view all I meant was to me that is why I see her as a dancer and less of a monk. After all this is all just speculation. Never meant to imply that only a dancer can recognize another one, just meant that is why it popped in my head so quickly. Haha thinking about it though a dancer in xiv would be hilarious if all they did was dance with no action xD

    ZioSerpe - if you want to see me on TV, without breaking NDA all I can say is keep an eye out on Bull on CBS. Also lmao love the spiderman pic haha (I dont wanna derail the thread lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    No, I have not personally been around different types of dancers before. I'm also sure you are a very talented dancer. But, I don't see how any of those are relevant. Do you mean to say that only dancers can tell when someone is dancing? Because, I can use my perception and observation to interpret when I see something that could be indicated as a dance. Can I classify and define what each and every jig, salsa, mamba, rumba, and pow wow is? No, probably not. But if I were to see someone doing anything similar to those, my brain would click and say, (aha) they are dancing. I did not get that from the Stormblood trialer.
    No, her point is you have never seen enough people dance that your view of 'dance' is very narrow.

    But that might not be her point, it's just my interpretation, not gonna put words in her mouth.
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