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    Player
    Mithrahn's Avatar
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    L'yuuyami Oschon
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Emstidor View Post
    Oh come on that's disengenuous and you know it. "Martial artist" is a hell of a lot more specific to class identity than "mage" or "sword guy", so I don't know why you try to muddle the issue with bad examples. A much better case would be if SE teased Geomancer as a "holy-themed earth mage", or Templar as a "dragon-themed spear-wielder", and you can BET people would throw a fit over their WHM and DRG class identities getting the shaft.
    Now you're either just being biased or your view/knowledge of martial arts is too narrow.
    "Martial Arts" isn't any more specific than "Mage" or "Swordwielders". There are many forms of 'martial arts' as there are many forms of 'magic' and 'swordstyles', even if to you all martial arts are the same.
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    Emstidor's Avatar
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    Emstidor Diabolos
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithrahn View Post
    Now you're either just being biased or your view/knowledge of martial arts is too narrow.
    "Martial Arts" isn't any more specific than "Mage" or "Swordwielders". There are many forms of 'martial arts' as there are many forms of 'magic' and 'swordstyles', even if to you all martial arts are the same.
    Be that as it may, my concern (and opinion) is that these two:



    aren't distinctive enough to warrant being two separate classes, at least based off what we've been shown so far.
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    Lufir's Avatar
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
    We don't need another magic user when we have whm. They would most likely end up being the same job... Oh wait... Blm, smn, sch.

    See how that works? Lol.

    Or swords? We don't need Another sword user it would be the same Job... Wait a minute....ninja gladiator darknight

    Hell they could have a small blade of some sort to go with their combat style.
    Except that is totally different. So no, that's not how it works. Having two jobs with the same exact monk skills is not the same as jobs with totally different magic skills. Black magic is different than white magic and summoning magic. You can't just bundle them in the same generalization to fit your argument. Having the lady in red to be a dancer who mimics the WoL's every move, would be like adding another job with a bow and songs. She IS that similar to a Monk. In addition, generalizing swords into the same category as Katanas (SAM) and daggers (NIN) is just flat out ridiculous.
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    Except that is totally different. So no, that's not how it works. Having two jobs with the same exact monk skills is not the same as jobs with totally different magic skills. Black magic is different than white magic and summoning magic. You can't just bundle them in the same generalization to fit your argument. Having the lady in red to be a dancer who mimics the WoL's every move, would be like adding another job with a bow and songs. She IS that similar to a Monk. In addition, generalizing swords into the same category as Katanas (SAM) and daggers (NIN) is just flat out ridiculous.
    So, you are one of those who never use "Swiftcast" with an other job than Thaumaturge?!
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    Last edited by Yukiko; 01-11-2017 at 06:23 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Lufir's Avatar
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    So, you are one of those who never use "Swiftcast" with an other job than Thaumaturge?!
    ...what? How did you come to this conclusion? Do you even know what the topic is about?
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Well speaking of similar jobs, we do have mch and brd >.>

    whm and ast...they basically do the same things just a little differently. I wouldn't mind a martial artist type dancer job. We only have one "dagger" class (well, more like katana :P) and I would love to see another dagger job..if that is dancer then hell yea ^^
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    Well speaking of similar jobs, we do have mch and brd >.>

    whm and ast...they basically do the same things just a little differently. I wouldn't mind a martial artist type dancer job. We only have one "dagger" class (well, more like katana :P) and I would love to see another dagger job..if that is dancer then hell yea ^^
    One thing we are actually missing is a DoW healer - aka a physical healer. I'd really like to see a melee job that is a healer.
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    DBelmont's Avatar
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    Damien Belmont
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Spiderman could also refer to a Dancer/Puppetmaster mix. Martial artist that uses strings to fight and manipulate a puppet and also have dances active on the char and the puppet much like a Bard.
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    AshlikeSnow's Avatar
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    Weyland Yutani
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 73
    I think the Spider-Man t shirt is hintng a new DOL / DOH job and my guess is Photographer. At the fanfest Yoshi-P showcased the new ingame screenshot edito. And it's an extensive editor so I think that's a good possibility. Whether or not it's called photographer or something along those lines.
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Some of you really need to look at the Thavnairian bustier.. It's basically what the girl in red is wearing and it's already in game. She is a monk. Period.
    Sorry looks nothing like the Thavnairian bustier. Nice try though.
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