Healing Magic Potency for non-healers

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So Cure and Physick may be changed when we roll into 4.0 with a new Role & Shared Role skill system. Right now Casters and PLD have access to these spells. And if you look at how they scaled in 2.x i70-130 gear at level 50 and now at level 60 in i180-270 gear, you'll immediately notice that our hp pools have grown tremendously, but that the power of these spells has barely increased at all in the hands of non-Healers.

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The same kind of scaling issue exists for Cleric's Stance's widening gap when using it for the wrong spells. It use to be less of a difference when level and ilvl were lower. DoM auto-attacks also, because base STR hasn't increased relative to the damage we do with our main stat-based attacks. A stick slap for 70 damage was relatively more when your spells did a few hundred damage, vs when they do 4-7k damage but the stick slap is still exactly the same. I don't think these matter as much as a cross class healing spell, but they are an example of how specializing in one stat and VIT (on our gear) make anything that uses a different stat for its output get pitifully weak as level and ilvl increase.

As I understood it 4.0 is removing cross skills altogether. Instead of DRK and WAR using provoke from GLD they'll have their own taunt, for example.

I see this as the first step of removing the class system completely. If it wasn't for ACN I think they'd have done it for 4.0.

I think cure for paladins (and similar situations) is a remnant from the old 1.x systems. As you said, paladins only use base mind so it's not an effective heal once you start gearing. For HW SE could have boosted Cure but instead gave us a new heal.

Personally I like the cleric stance mechanic. Heals scaling purely off of mind means that for a healer to do some damage they have to forego some healing. It solves the levelling issue and means healers are too effective in group content. It also means that damage dealers can't be effective healers too.

All jobs should not have a heal. If a significant heal is needed then that content is either overturned or is meant to be in a group.