The Xp and the PL problem are not "Fixed"

[deathsite]

I just joined Istory and got 1-50 in 4 days. This means I can now enjoy the game, I can play with my friends, I can go do Ifrit, I can have fun, because I havent had to do the same boring ass shit repeatedly over. I havent had to waste 2 months (Im casual) to level up.

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

[TheVedis]

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

he grouped with others under the rediculous exp rates we have now(or he was power leveled the easier way pre patch)

you can get 100k an hour easily at ANY RANGE grouping with others right now

[viion]

Why would I be jealous? Come on, don't be like that. I will soon have a 50 of my own for battle and I leveled it the proper way for the most part until this uber xp was introduced lol. I'm not jealous. It's wrong because it isn't the target any game maker should have for their leveling curve. You don't allow someone to "beat the game" in 4 days. Yoshi has already said 4 months is a good target for cap. Not 4 days.

You must know, in the back of your mind, it's wrong to cap out in 4 days. As much as I'm sure you like it. I like cigarettes but fuck if they aren't going to kill me one day.

How is getting 1-50 "Beating the game" that is ridiculous lol. Not to mention that 4 months is for Casuals not Hardcore, most new casuals will not have access to an entire ls that can PL them, they have to start from scratch and meet new people. So it will take them about 3 months lol. As they wont be just levelling 1 class straight.

Your thinking that a player will do nothing but level non stop when he joins the game... So clueless...

you cant judge speed based on the ammount of days it takes to reach
its all about time

you cant reward people for having "less" time to play, otherwise it shortens the life of stuff

5 hours is not long at all to reach the FINAL level of the game, thats the whole points, it the "final" level right
once you reach it, until they raise the cap, your done with whatever your on as far as leveling

so what if it takes some people a day and others 3-4 days to reach, 3-4 days of doing a small bit each day is more then reasonable to do it, its not like that makes it unattainable or unreasonable cuz it takes a few days of very little playtime to do

It is a long time when you are having to do it countless timrd, take for example 50-60 if it took about the same time on averag esay 55 is 2 days and 60 is 4 thats still almost a month to get from 50-60 lol that is retarded, its reason people quit, Aion made this mistake, XI made this mistake. Why dont we... not keep making the same mistake by making the most useless part of the game not take so long.

You guys will kill the idea of levelling up multiple classes, if it took 4 months that is 2 years and 3 months to hit 50 on all, almost a year just to get 1 50 and a couple 20+.........

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

Its slightly changed now, but killing anything 10 levels above you will do it.

[Wynn]

How is getting 1-50 "Beating the game" that is ridiculous lol. Not to mention that 4 months is for Casuals not Hardcore, most new casuals will not have access to an entire ls that can PL them, they have to start from scratch and meet new people. So it will take them about 3 months lol. As they wont be just levelling 1 class straight.

Your thinking that a player will do nothing but level non stop when he joins the game... So clueless...



It is a long time when you are having to do it countless timrd, take for example 50-60 if it took about the same time on averag esay 55 is 2 days and 60 is 4 thats still almost a month to get from 50-60 lol that is retarded, its reason people quit, Aion made this mistake, XI made this mistake. Why dont we... not keep making the same mistake by making the most useless part of the game not take so long.

You guys will kill the idea of levelling up multiple classes, if it took 4 months that is 2 years and 3 months to hit 50 on all, almost a year just to get 1 50 and a couple 20+.........




Its slightly changed now, but killing anything 10 levels above you will do it.

So which is it, V? Are you casual or hardcore because you are starting to contradict yourself here.

[viion]

So which is it, V? Are you casual or hardcore because you are starting to contradict yourself here.

Umm... How am I contradicting myself? and you seriously have to turn the argument into something like this because you realise you cant win the debate? Very sad.

I said Im casual, its clear on that. All my points render down to making the game: Easier, Accessible and more Fun.

I vouch for Casuals always.

you are talking like the actual goal is to get 50 in every class?

its not, you need 1 50 to do the endgame content, not 19 50s

so that 1 50 should not be done in a few days, you shouldnt be able to cap every class a months(or less)


thats something you may not understand

No I am talking that getting multiple classes is a forced goal by the type of game. and even by the players

You get told GTFO without both provoke/taunt if you want to tank
You get told GTFO without sac2/cure2 even sometimes

You are forced down these specific roles because being 1 class at 50 is worthless most of the time, you have to level more classes for the subskills.

[TheVedis]

Umm... How am I contradicting myself? and you seriously have to turn the argument into something like this because you realise you cant win the debate? Very sad.

I said Im casual, its clear on that. All my points render down to making the game: Easier, Accessible and more Fun.

I vouch for Casuals always.

easy and accessible doesnt = uber fast leveling in a few days to cap

thats something you need to understand

[viion]

easy and accessible doesnt = uber fast leveling in a few days to cap

thats something you need to understand

But it also does at the same time, which is something you do not understand.

A lot of people quit because it takes too long. I couldnt even get my brother to play because it takes too long unless I power level him and thats hard atm (rl stuff)

Its unaccessable to him, its not welcoming. He comes in and the game throws chors at him.

I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint. /peace dude. I'm just saying, you say you are casual and that you leveled to 50 in four days. Then you say the four month target is for casuals not hardcore. So I'm just asking you about this contradiction. Which one are you? Casual, in which case you should not have been able to level to max in four days according to you, or hardcore?

It is clear you did not understand me then

I am not saying I said the 4 months is for casuals, YOSHI said this.

I got 50 in 4 days because I have a large LS, who did it for me, as I run a big site, it was more to see "How long does it take?". Without the LS who did it for me, it wouldnt have happened. Casuals do not have this luxery.

I am a casual player, I also have the luxery that people invite me to their server and boost me up out of their own generosity.

[Wynn]

Umm... How am I contradicting myself? and you seriously have to turn the argument into something like this because you realise you cant win the debate? Very sad.

I said Im casual, its clear on that. All my points render down to making the game: Easier, Accessible and more Fun.

I vouch for Casuals always.

I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint. /peace dude. I'm just saying, you say you are casual and that you leveled to 50 in four days. Then you say the four month target is for casuals not hardcore. So I'm just asking you about this contradiction. Which one are you? Casual, in which case you should not have been able to level to max in four days according to you, or hardcore?

[TheVedis]

How is getting 1-50 "Beating the game" that is ridiculous lol. Not to mention that 4 months is for Casuals not Hardcore, most new casuals will not have access to an entire ls that can PL them, they have to start from scratch and meet new people. So it will take them about 3 months lol. As they wont be just levelling 1 class straight.

Your thinking that a player will do nothing but level non stop when he joins the game... So clueless...



It is a long time when you are having to do it countless timrd, take for example 50-60 if it took about the same time on averag esay 55 is 2 days and 60 is 4 thats still almost a month to get from 50-60 lol that is retarded, its reason people quit, Aion made this mistake, XI made this mistake. Why dont we... not keep making the same mistake by making the most useless part of the game not take so long.

You guys will kill the idea of levelling up multiple classes, if it took 4 months that is 2 years and 3 months to hit 50 on all, almost a year just to get 1 50 and a couple 20+.........




Its slightly changed now, but killing anything 10 levels above you will do it.

you are talking like the actual goal is to get 50 in every class?

its not, you need 1 50 to do the endgame content, not 19 50s

so that 1 50 should not be done in a few days, you shouldnt be able to cap every class a months(or less)


thats something you may not understand