The Xp and the PL problem are not "Fixed"

[viion]

I say keep the EXP how it is, but i do not agree on the 200k 300k 400k thing. That means that from 50-60 you'd need 7.7million EXP, thats equal to 4 50's lol......

Might as well put a little message on the title like Minecraft saying "Not for Casual Players".

Levelling is pointless and thinking its anything more than just prolonging your game-time is stupid. It does not mean anything.

I just joined Istory and got 1-50 in 4 days. This means I can now enjoy the game, I can play with my friends, I can go do Ifrit, I can have fun, because I havent had to do the same boring ass shit repeatedly over. I havent had to waste 2 months (Im casual) to level up.

I joined and can have fun right away thanks to this system, I doubt SE want to ruin that.

If you want to slow your EXP down, you can choose to, dont force it on everyone else, thats just selfish.

[Wynn]

I just joined Istory and got 1-50 in 4 days.

I'm sorry but this is just wrong.

[deathsite]

I just joined Istory and got 1-50 in 4 days. This means I can now enjoy the game, I can play with my friends, I can go do Ifrit, I can have fun, because I havent had to do the same boring ass shit repeatedly over. I havent had to waste 2 months (Im casual) to level up.

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

[TheVedis]

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

he grouped with others under the rediculous exp rates we have now(or he was power leveled the easier way pre patch)

you can get 100k an hour easily at ANY RANGE grouping with others right now

[viion]

Why would I be jealous? Come on, don't be like that. I will soon have a 50 of my own for battle and I leveled it the proper way for the most part until this uber xp was introduced lol. I'm not jealous. It's wrong because it isn't the target any game maker should have for their leveling curve. You don't allow someone to "beat the game" in 4 days. Yoshi has already said 4 months is a good target for cap. Not 4 days.

You must know, in the back of your mind, it's wrong to cap out in 4 days. As much as I'm sure you like it. I like cigarettes but fuck if they aren't going to kill me one day.

How is getting 1-50 "Beating the game" that is ridiculous lol. Not to mention that 4 months is for Casuals not Hardcore, most new casuals will not have access to an entire ls that can PL them, they have to start from scratch and meet new people. So it will take them about 3 months lol. As they wont be just levelling 1 class straight.

Your thinking that a player will do nothing but level non stop when he joins the game... So clueless...

you cant judge speed based on the ammount of days it takes to reach
its all about time

you cant reward people for having "less" time to play, otherwise it shortens the life of stuff

5 hours is not long at all to reach the FINAL level of the game, thats the whole points, it the "final" level right
once you reach it, until they raise the cap, your done with whatever your on as far as leveling

so what if it takes some people a day and others 3-4 days to reach, 3-4 days of doing a small bit each day is more then reasonable to do it, its not like that makes it unattainable or unreasonable cuz it takes a few days of very little playtime to do

It is a long time when you are having to do it countless timrd, take for example 50-60 if it took about the same time on averag esay 55 is 2 days and 60 is 4 thats still almost a month to get from 50-60 lol that is retarded, its reason people quit, Aion made this mistake, XI made this mistake. Why dont we... not keep making the same mistake by making the most useless part of the game not take so long.

You guys will kill the idea of levelling up multiple classes, if it took 4 months that is 2 years and 3 months to hit 50 on all, almost a year just to get 1 50 and a couple 20+.........

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

Its slightly changed now, but killing anything 10 levels above you will do it.

[Wynn]

How is getting 1-50 "Beating the game" that is ridiculous lol. Not to mention that 4 months is for Casuals not Hardcore, most new casuals will not have access to an entire ls that can PL them, they have to start from scratch and meet new people. So it will take them about 3 months lol. As they wont be just levelling 1 class straight.

Your thinking that a player will do nothing but level non stop when he joins the game... So clueless...



It is a long time when you are having to do it countless timrd, take for example 50-60 if it took about the same time on averag esay 55 is 2 days and 60 is 4 thats still almost a month to get from 50-60 lol that is retarded, its reason people quit, Aion made this mistake, XI made this mistake. Why dont we... not keep making the same mistake by making the most useless part of the game not take so long.

You guys will kill the idea of levelling up multiple classes, if it took 4 months that is 2 years and 3 months to hit 50 on all, almost a year just to get 1 50 and a couple 20+.........




Its slightly changed now, but killing anything 10 levels above you will do it.

So which is it, V? Are you casual or hardcore because you are starting to contradict yourself here.

[TheVedis]

How is getting 1-50 "Beating the game" that is ridiculous lol. Not to mention that 4 months is for Casuals not Hardcore, most new casuals will not have access to an entire ls that can PL them, they have to start from scratch and meet new people. So it will take them about 3 months lol. As they wont be just levelling 1 class straight.

Your thinking that a player will do nothing but level non stop when he joins the game... So clueless...



It is a long time when you are having to do it countless timrd, take for example 50-60 if it took about the same time on averag esay 55 is 2 days and 60 is 4 thats still almost a month to get from 50-60 lol that is retarded, its reason people quit, Aion made this mistake, XI made this mistake. Why dont we... not keep making the same mistake by making the most useless part of the game not take so long.

You guys will kill the idea of levelling up multiple classes, if it took 4 months that is 2 years and 3 months to hit 50 on all, almost a year just to get 1 50 and a couple 20+.........




Its slightly changed now, but killing anything 10 levels above you will do it.

you are talking like the actual goal is to get 50 in every class?

its not, you need 1 50 to do the endgame content, not 19 50s

so that 1 50 should not be done in a few days, you shouldnt be able to cap every class a months(or less)


thats something you may not understand

[Skyrant_Kangaroomouse]

As if we don't have other more important problems, but ok, I'll bite.

Exponential leveling curves have time and again proven to be the worst thing you can do in an MMO. It creates huge problems for both casual players, the economy and even hardcore players.

Look at the current top level heavy economy with 90% of all items, crafts, gathering completely useless. You can see this right now in the Materia Market. No one gives a ... about grade I-III Materia. It's not worth to even put into armor because you outlevel your gear so fast. 30/40-50 however is extremely overpriced.

That is just one example, but it applies for the whole economy. Crafters at low level can't sell their stuff they level on because no one bothers. I can go on but i think you get the idea. It's BAD.

Linear progression is the only and best solution. It's easy to balance and easy to adjust. Linear means it takes 1h to level from 1-2 as well as to level from 49-50. (The 1h is an example).

@OP: If you correct your Post, please also correct your "would of" atrocity. It's "would have" for crying out loud!

[smokymcweed]

p/l is cheap period but its gona happen i made quite a bit of gil on xi becuase ppl wanted a rdm to pl them and wer willing to offer payment i never asked for it but i didnt refuse it ither its part of the game get over it

[Wynn]

p/l is cheap period but its gona happen i made quite a bit of gil on xi becuase ppl wanted a rdm to pl them and wer willing to offer payment i never asked for it but i didnt refuse it ither its part of the game get over it

Yeah its part of the game but that doesn't mean the game should go balls deep and overdo it either.